030: Mike Harmeier of Mike and The Moonpies
On Episode 030, Mike Harmeier of Mike and The Moonpies returns. During this one, we talk life on the road, hear more stories from Texas honky-tonks, old country music, and what's on the horizon.
Interview Transcript
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Thomas Mooney 0:09
Everyone, welcome to episode number 30 of the new slang podcast. I'm Thomas Mooney, your editor in chief and whatnot, you're in Lubbock. Last week, we didn't have we did not have a podcast. But we're gonna try and make it up this week with the release of probably three interviews. This one right here Episode Number 30 is with Mike harmar of Mike in the moon pies will release also this one that we did with john Baumann and another one that we did with Dalton Domino, we recorded those in three days last week. So, yeah, we'll just go ahead and release them all this week. Hopefully, we start doing a little bit more of that, at least like to two week, just because we're starting to get a little bit more focus on the on the podcast. Um, yeah, I'll go in and just keep this little intro short, just so you can listen to the interview with Mike and I. And yeah, if you aren't following us on any of the social media kind of stuff. You can find new slang at twitter. At underscore new slang, you can find us on Instagram at underscore new slang. And then on Facebook, you can just look for new slang just search new slang and you should be able to find it. If you haven't reviewed the the new slang podcast on iTunes. I would really appreciate you doing that as well. tell all your friends to listen to it and subscribe and whatnot as well. So yeah, here's the interview with Mike
there's a little bit louder in here actually. Because there's like no house music on anymore. Well, that'll probably change. Yeah. But uh yeah. Let's start off with the jack rabbit thing because I think like some people need to know about this. It's very important news. What is this a local news site that told me it was it was on just the the news like the teenis. What we're talking about is before I got up here, I were talking about this walking in. I had shown Mike this this new thing where I guess the largest jackrabbit was in Odessa for a long time, and I knew that as a kid, I would go up to Odessa. I didn't realize you had you had knowledge. Yeah, well, growing up in Fort Stockton Well, they have all these little jackrabbits. All these little jackrabbits all over like little stash little wooden jackrabbits. Yeah, they may be ceramic. I don't know. But then, I guess the people in roles thought they needed to have the I think the reason I like their ties to it is like it's, I think their their mascot is the jackrabbit like their high school mascot
so I think like their thought were they think that they should have what's the Odessa mascot?
Well you got like the Permian Panthers okay. And the Odessa high I think Broncos Okay, so they don't have a giant Panther but I think like I think this is one of those things where the the people of brawls just do not understand how well like the people of Odessa Texas are in the what I would call the born ready crowd they don't get ready they're born ready. And that means like, I'm guessing within the over under is like a month before Odessa has the largest jackrabbits by drawing up the plans for it right now. Yeah. And I don't know if that's the plans of building one or burning one or stealing this
Mike Harmeier 4:20
actually stealing that when I could see that happening. You say something like that and you make such a big deal about it. You're asking for it to get stolen? Yeah. Or like you know, spray painted or something? Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 4:31
What should have you seen on the side of the road that is just like always claimed to be the biggest whatever?
Mike Harmeier 4:37
I don't know. I've never seen like the largest ball of twine or anything like that. Like I don't even know what that is. But I don't know I haven't really seen I haven't really we don't i don't go out and see the big the big you don't
Unknown Speaker 4:49
you ever seen just like sign pointing to this way to you have it Oh, that's dairy queens, the other one.
Mike Harmeier 4:56
I mean, we only stop it like that. Marfa lights are something Yeah, that's the word the most worthless. Oh, I know.
Thomas Mooney 5:06
We'll see in Fort Stockton we had for the longest time the largest Road Runner. It was a wooden Road Runner. Again, I think ceramic ceramic. Or maybe plastic? I don't know. But then I remember some town I think some town in New Mexico ended up building a bigger bigger one out of metal. Yeah. So we lost that. But I don't think for stock never change the sign. They're just like so
Mike Harmeier 5:32
why why the road runner in Fort Stockton?
Thomas Mooney 5:35
I honestly have no idea. I think what from what I understand somebody some group in high school had built it for what should we call it a project? Like the shit I would shoppers' not a not a carnival or fair but like you're going through town. A flow rate for a parade. Yeah. Flow. And then I guess they ended up saying, well, let's put it up. And let's keep it Yeah, he was always traveling. Yeah, hang on to this thing. So there's like the a spot and forge sucked. And that has like a where it's just Yeah, I don't know why. I
Mike Harmeier 6:18
mean, I'm just I think it said the Road Runner like the New Mexico one that's like their state bird or something. Isn't it? Like the Road Runner?
Thomas Mooney 6:23
I have no idea. Yeah, it seems I'm sure it is. Yeah. Sounds
Mike Harmeier 6:27
I like I have a thing with Road Runners. I have an affinity for Road Runners. Yeah. just telling you. Yeah. I'd like to see a big one. Yeah. Yeah, now that I know where it's at? Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 6:42
Let's see, like now. But if you think about it too much, that's when you start realizing just how weird all this stuff is, you know,
Mike Harmeier 6:48
see, I used to have this thing on my phone. It was like the Texas State landmark app, or whatever. And it had like a listing and a map of every one of those little Texas plaques, you see. And so we used to stop at those like, we would try to we would usually catch the ones that are like off the highway. They're just like, somebody was shot in that creek or something like that. Or, and we had a good one going for a while, like we maybe stopped it 30 or 40 of them in like maybe three week period. Really? Is there everywhere out there. Yeah, there's ones on the side of the road.
Thomas Mooney 7:18
Well, did it say how many there are in Texas? I mean, it's it's it's like, maybe 1000s? I kind of figured it. Yeah, it was four digits at least. Yeah.
Mike Harmeier 7:29
You I mean, you really can't go, you know, like three or four miles without crossing one somewhere. Whether it be in town or off the side of the road. Yeah. But that was a weird thing that we did for a while just because, you know, it's interesting to I did it on radio tour a lot because there's nothing to do. You're just stopping it. And at seeing landmarks taking a taking a piss. Yeah. See?
Thomas Mooney 7:52
Like I I've stopped at a few of those just because, you know, if you're in an area, I think you stop at them. Sure. So yeah, okay, this is kind of cool seeing them. But like the the ones really around fort Stockton. Or, like, I've not really ever even checked any of those out just because it's like you don't check out what's in your own backyard typically. Like, when it comes to stuff like yeah, just gonna take the day and drive out there. I mean, like, again, like if you're driving to middlin or Odessa or wherever. Yeah, it's like, Well, I suppose. Some other time. I guess. I'll be through here again. So the Marfa lights you were not impressed with at all I've
Unknown Speaker 8:31
never been impressed with it. I think it's I think it's a scam. What do you think it is just okay, just a scam.
Mike Harmeier 8:36
That's a scam. I don't think I mean, I don't I'm not saying there's some guy out there with a flashlight. Yeah, like, it doesn't it doesn't make any sense. Most of the time and another you don't see anything at all. They say there's a peak season for it and like a peak time of night. And I've never I'm always coming back from Marfa going to Alpine or something here like three in the morning. So I never am at the right. peak time. Yeah, but I've never seen anything. Yeah, at all. That was Have you seen Have you seen things?
Thomas Mooney 9:02
They're not like once you see them? They're not really that impressive. It's not like a colored orb. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Now growing up whenever I was five, six, and I first heard about the Marfa lights, I thought oh, shit, man. This is like, gonna be like a light show kind of thing. And then I remember. I remember. I guess I was probably around seven or eight. My parents and we went to the observatory in Fort Davis. I guess we drove out there as well. And we saw them and it was just like, so underwhelming.
Mike Harmeier 9:37
That's the perfect word for underwhelming. Yeah. We stopped out there. This is a stupid story. We stopped at dinner one night during the Viva Big Band festival. And there was nobody out there. It was like a whole bunch of us like all the band and like all the girlfriends and stuff. Were all with us. And we stopped there and We didn't think anyone else was there and then one of the dudes farted.
And I said, I don't know anything about the Marvel lies with the Marvel sound. We took out there's this old couple sitting right behind us. We had no idea. Yeah, they remember us now I gave him a CD. Let's see. That's the thing is.
Thomas Mooney 10:20
So fort Stockton would play Presidio in basketball. Yeah. And so I remember our coach would stop out there on the way back through because yeah, Presidio is even further than Marfa if you didn't know that further south, so we'd stop back there in a bus and there would always just be strange people out there just that's
Mike Harmeier 10:41
crazy that that's the middle of nowhere it's not really well policed. I don't know if there's any cameras out there like what goes on out there. There's a lot of things going on out there right now that are crazy like murders and stuff like in
Thomas Mooney 10:52
the wild wild west the whole Yeah, the Alpine news stuff is Ken Yeah,
Mike Harmeier 10:55
like we were just there last weekend. And they had just found this girl's body had been missing for like five months and she was like in a shallow grave like out and and they arrested the boyfriend and yeah, it's crazy man in the past three years I was talking to a bunch of people out there in the past three years have been crazy with murders and drug like drug deals gone bad and
Thomas Mooney 11:14
what's there it's as far as like from honestly like from like Mexico, the border of Texas and Mexico all the way up to I would say even like Odessa there's like there's very little
Mike Harmeier 11:30
I wouldn't be surprised action. I guess what I'm saying if they put a border checkpoint in like now like, up up around Alpine because they have that one light coming through. terlingua they have the one over the side.
Unknown Speaker 11:42
Yeah. There's one in between Presidio and there's one there. Yeah. And Marfa. I'm surprised
Mike Harmeier 11:48
that there's not yet like something. It's like a little bit north of that, like, our pie like leaving Alpine going back into would suck. I'm not saying I want that at all. I want I want them to go away. Yeah. It seems like you know, there's a lot of things going on out there a lot of bad drug deals and stuff like that going on. I figured they would be policing it more. Yeah. A lot of No, No Country for Old Men. Yeah, action. Absolutely. Yeah. It's like the real thing out there right now. Yeah, the
Thomas Mooney 12:19
what I that's what I to me. That's like the like the real West Texas. Yeah, not not the, like the I guess like the product? asked. Yeah. The hipster.
Mike Harmeier 12:32
Yeah, that's all just strictly Marfa. Yeah. Everything else is just people getting gunned down in the street. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 12:40
Which, like, if I would move back down there and yeah, for sure. But, yeah, it is very it's a harsh environment. It is, man. You know,
Mike Harmeier 12:51
I totally dig it. Like I love westerns. I love Alpine. I love to lingo I love you know, I guess I love Marfa. I don't know. I mean, yeah. I don't really care. Although I was talking to my cousin the other day, he goes out there to Marfa a lot. And he was saying there's some theater there. I can't remember the name of it in Marfa. But he was like, I got a lot of guys tore through there and make that a stop on there. Like Bonneville air and stuff like that. Come through there and play maybe like the ballroom, morpho Seven, eight, maybe that's what it is. Cuz I know. Like there's
Thomas Mooney 13:22
Well, there's like a lot of points. A lot of bigger names have played there before. Yeah, like, I got the drive. And for example, they but they're thrown there, right? They definitely pass it Okay, I'll pass it. But like whenever they they came back together before that. Coachella. Right. reunion, I guess maybe three years ago, two or three years ago. One of their I guess like warm up practice shows was in Marfa and like tickets for like 15 bucks.
Mike Harmeier 13:46
That's crazy to me like because, you know, there's that there's a definitely a population like, like an older population that lives out there. That's like the older art community. And I guess since they are an art community, they go to see all those things but I hear like those shows like, you know, you can go see like a really really high price normally high price show for like a really national big national touring act for like nothing in it. And they kind of, it's cool, because you probably see some really cool shows there. They're taking it as like kind of a night off. It's like probably a smaller room. And like they're out in the middle of nowhere. They're probably staying in cosmic or something like that. So they're having like a vacation. I mean, it might be worth it to live out there just because yes.
Thomas Mooney 14:30
I know like when I was in high school, like Jeff Tweedy played a show out there. It was a solo show. Like, Animal Collective played out there, right. What I heard is like Animal Collective played in front of like, 12 people. And this was around like, yeah, like this is a bit like when they were I guess what was it strawberry jam. That was like their big big record. Yeah, it was around that time. So when did you See Tweety out there. I didn't see 3d like that. You basically. Yeah, I was in high school. The younger years of high school and I saw
Mike Harmeier 15:09
I saw that 3d so that sunken treasure tour. Yeah, I saw it two nights in a row and Austin. That was like, one of the highlights of like music I've ever seen. It was great. Like the whole second half of the show. He just comes out and plays with no PA, and like, stands at the edge of the stage. And just plays for like 30 minutes. Really? It was awesome. Man. is so cool. I had to see it twice.
Thomas Mooney 15:36
You had to Yeah. Okay, now the question though. The second night was it a? Did you go because you saw the first night and said I need to see this again. Or did you? Like by already? Okay, I was gonna go no matter what. Okay. Well, I mean, like, that would be probably the biggest endorsement is like I went the first night. And it was so amazing. I found my way in the second night. It would have been a task man
Mike Harmeier 16:01
because it was like salty. People were fighting for tickets for that thing, because it's a small theater. Yeah. But it would have been totally worth it. I would have paid extra money to go see it again.
Thomas Mooney 16:10
Yeah, sure. No, there's I guess like Tweedy played out there. I know. Spoon has Yeah, I can see that. There was that big. I guess they were on a train a train tour thing? Yeah thing with like Old Crow Medicine was on it. Yeah. And and I can't remember who else was on that? It was? Well it was it was a bit brother Mumford and son Well, first and Dan band's name someone that has that song comb. Edward Sharpe, Edward Sharpe. Yeah, I never would have guessed that. Yeah. They, it was those three guy or three bands that came through Austin. I remember it coming. Yeah. Yeah. Because Yeah, that train goes from, I guess the Southwest from like El Paso down to Alpine Marfa.
Mike Harmeier 17:07
What's the name of that? Movie festival Express. You see that? It's like, the same idea of a tour like on a train. Really. It's like the band and like Janis Joplin. It's like, you know, is around Woodstock time, I guess. A little bit later than Woodstock. I suppose. I'm assuming they kind of borrowed the idea then. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I
Thomas Mooney 17:29
think there is a documentary. Yeah. This one's about this one. I didn't know that. Yeah. I know there's Did you see that one? called Austin to Boston. Now I haven't seen that. Basically, they were like driving around in old like Volkswagen vans. And it was a I can't think of who it was. It was like the staves. The staves are Gil Andrey was like one of the drivers. And he like narrated the the documentary. It's like a 4040 minute documentary. I think like Nathaniel Ratliff before he. Yeah, like before he
Mike Harmeier 18:14
said they're all like touring in separate vans, like going out but
Thomas Mooney 18:16
all together. Yeah. Okay. All together. Yeah. And there's a couple of other bands, but it was an interesting little. I'd like to see that. What's it called? Austin to Boston to Boston. Last time I checked. It's on Netflix. Actually. Wait. Yeah. One of my buddies was a driver on that tour. And he's like, uh, I guess he's probably like, 6869 it just the goofy get guy. And it's funny, like, seeing him. Just for like, split like, they don't focus on him. Yeah, for sure. Because he's obviously just the driver. But like, he's in it every once in a while. Yeah, I think like coffin on a cigarette. Like, that was like one of the things I remember. I think he's, he takes like a big, you know, inhale on a cigarette and then ends up like coughing and they just leave it just. Yeah. I've seen it Austin to Boston. I can remember that.
Unknown Speaker 19:13
What would you do that? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, just like a convoy of I would love to do that. Man. That's the that's one of my It's like my one of my goals.
Thomas Mooney 19:22
Yeah, not something like I'm not saying like in your band, or like in a bus. I'm saying like in a something like really? like Apple makes it makes it really a novelty in a way. I mean, yeah, there's like, I'm guessing train would probably be like, be great, cuz you don't really have to worry about Yeah.
Mike Harmeier 19:42
I would love to do train. Yeah. And yeah, that seems really feasible to do that. Yeah, but I would want to do it like that, like have a bunch of bands on it. No, like, so you're hanging out on it? Because I mean, you know, you're just playing the show and getting back on the train. Yeah, so the bar car is where Dad, I suppose. But it would be great man. You'd have like jams and different cars and stuff. It'd be Yeah. It'd be a festival on a train. I would love to do that. Yeah, I would do it. Yeah, I would do any of that, like touring wise, where it's like five or six bands that like go on a really long run, like, way longer than it should be? Yeah, like, I would totally want to be a part of something like that.
Thomas Mooney 20:23
Yeah. That's why we need a high spill. A high speed rail system here in America. That's right. That's why I vote is profit. I guess you can do that in Europe. Because a lot of when you go to Europe, I know a lot of bands travel by train.
Mike Harmeier 20:41
I bet bands do that all the time for their bands just have a gig. I went off taking the train. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
Unknown Speaker 20:47
yeah. But uh, well, I mean, even like, I guess, probably in the north, east to Yeah, you can, I suppose. Jump on the train. I
Mike Harmeier 20:56
feel like, you know, Europeans use a lot more public transportation. And no, they definitely do. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 21:05
Yeah, that's what a, I guess a couple of weeks ago. Kevin and Bill from American aquarium were on and Kevin was saying how he's, you know, he's in the cycling, right. And he was saying how when he was whenever they'd go on these European tours, that's, that was really what was so eye opening is that people would bike everywhere, sure. And not bike and he like, Okay, I gotta change my biking gear, just like in their business suits or whatever. You know, they're just daily attire. Kevin's like I'm home. This is where I need to be. So yeah. And so that's kind of like, helped them, I guess, gave them a little bit of motivation to do that kind of stuff.
Mike Harmeier 21:43
They do use this line where it's like Kevin says, they shout to some clubs. And they're always like, Oh, hey, man, like you're that guy that, uh, that? Uh, no, it's bill. It's bill. You know, they're walking up to bill and they go, Hey, man, so you're that guy? Like, where's your Where's your Where's your bicycle?
Unknown Speaker 22:00
Oh, we talked about how like, Gavin's like, they're essentially.
Thomas Mooney 22:05
Yeah. Nobody comes up to Kevin. It's like, he didn't lose all those weights. Yeah, we talked a little bit about that. How, like, just that's what's I find that really funny about people. And when it comes to their, quote, favorite bands, you know, just like, I love you guys. You're my favorite band of all time. But I did not know like, you guys were two separate. I mean, it's understandable in a lot of ways. Just because if you're just the casual fan or like, if you I mean,
Mike Harmeier 22:40
you know, but those guys are so public about like, their personal Yeah. Like, you know, it's easy to do. You know, to know who everyone is. Yeah. Especially in that band. They all do. They're really good at like, separating their characters from each other. Yeah. And being like, I really love social media. I really like that about them. You know? Like, they really take that to the next level. Yeah. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 23:02
They're really good on social media. Yeah, just.
Mike Harmeier 23:05
I saw BJ has given like, like, he's like a speaking thing. Like at festivals. He's like, talked about social media. They gave him like a chair to talk through. I had a social media presence. Like he's, he's on the cutting edge of the social media. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 23:19
Yeah. Well, he did. He's got the Twitter and the Instagram. I know, he runs like, I don't know, if he runs everything. Now. I know. He runs a Twitter and Instagram stuff. But I know for a long time he was running everything. And you know, this is even like, past burned flicker dye wolves. You know, he brought in all aspects of it. And I mean, I think that makes them it makes them have to be more engaging.
Mike Harmeier 23:49
Absolutely. You know? Well, just like Jason Isbell is the same way, like he does, like you can tell all his stuff is really personal. You know, like, he's joking all the time on Twitter. Like he's very, he's really active on Twitter. And yeah,
Thomas Mooney 24:02
but one of my buddies, he tweeted the other day about how, because I guess, like Jason's tweets, they go automatically to Facebook. Yeah. Right. And he tweeted something about how he wonders like, why people don't understand. Like, they don't realize that like, Jason's ever looking on the Facebook. Yeah, yeah, there's so commenting, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, just like getting pissed off about something. It's like, he's not gonna see that he's never read any of those. If you're gonna like, I guess, like, praise Him. We're like, yeah, burrito. I'm about 100 opinion. You have to get on Twitter. You can engage
Mike Harmeier 24:37
him in Twitter, like he will respond to like, I'm not saying you can respond 100% of the time. Yeah, yeah. But like he's like he said he like he's very much like BJ, he's active on it. And like he really does talk to people on Yeah, yeah. In fact, our keyword player john, one time posted on Isabel's Instagram because he was playing that. They were out at like the Newport Folk Festival, and like, Jason played Bob Dylan's guitar like the strategy used when he went electric or whatever. Yeah. So he's playing that. And nobody had commented this. But john commented on his picture, and it was like, What song did you play? Like cuz nobody, nobody asked that. Yeah. Which is a crazy task. And he responded, and I can't remember what he said. But it was hilarious. Yeah, he was like Hendrix or something. I think he
Thomas Mooney 25:30
was doing this like, this is probably too I don't know, maybe two years ago, so I was gonna do this project about, like, asking different songwriters. If you had a show to play, where you're playing just a, someone else's record straight through, what would you play? And like, I just thought, oh, I'll shoot him a direct message just to see if I say anything. And so I basically asked him the question, and he sent back he was like, yeah, Neutral Milk hotel. Really? airplane over the seat. Yeah. That's what the show would be just him. Like, if he had to do that. That's a great answer. straight through. Yeah. I knew it was a big fan of that record. Really? Which I'm assuming kind of sounds surprising to a lot of people. Because like, either a they don't they never fucking heard of neutrality. Or they find it to be like a cliche indie. Yeah, kind of thing.
Mike Harmeier 26:24
But it is it is. I could see like it is one of those records that you get a little bit obsessed with. Yeah, at the time. Like I bet it was like a huge record for him. So one time
Thomas Mooney 26:31
Yeah. He probably told the story 100 times now but uh, I guess like with him and Amanda were dating early on. He they spent Christmas here. And my buddy Daniel fluid who was in thrift store with Amanda. He had like this Sunday gig at screeners which is his dive bar here. And I know it well. Oh, you do? Yeah. Smokey. All kinds of anyways. So like, long story short, Jason played like a set that night at schooners? Really? Yeah. And it was just like, word of mouth kind of thing. And one of the songs he played was a hall in 1945. Yeah. Yeah. Really? A very slow down version of that. Because you know, obviously that's like a wrap. Love to hear that. Yeah. That was a it was a really strange kind of bizarre night. That's like, kind of reminded me of like any of those old stories of like, yeah, and then guess what? Yeah, you're never gonna believe bla bla bla walked in five minutes after you left. You know? I want one of those to happen. Yeah, maybe that'll happen tonight. Yeah, just Joey stops by. It's his 70th birthday. Yeah. Is it really somebody's birthday today? Yeah. I met him at a gas station and eaten once. Really? As great as ever met anyone out like at a gas station.
Mike Harmeier 28:04
I run that's where I run into people as a gas stations all the time. Yeah. Easily was a big one for me. One time I ran into Ray Benson's girlfriend. Station. Yeah, she's like, you guys are the vampires. Right? And I was like, yeah, just like I saw you guys open for re and uvalde. And I'm saying like that. I was like, Oh, that's awesome. We just get recognized by Ray Benson's girlfriend. I don't think they're together anymore. I don't know. Maybe they are. No, it doesn't matter. She was and that was also in that was in Sonora? Actually, Sonora? Yeah. Yeah, that's a we go out there.
Thomas Mooney 28:40
Yeah, that feels like just say, I'm not going to Sonora or honestly, like I've never been I've not been through sinwar in a long time. But that just feels like a town built in a Hey, what's the worst spot we can go? Like, it's just like, not, in my opinion. It's not really building the
Mike Harmeier 29:00
weather's good. There's nothing there, man. There's nothing there. Then even the town is not really even there. Yeah, yeah. They used to have this gas at the gas station. I met her at it was like this little bitty spot. Like, they sold like cigarettes and candy bars and like, three pumps. Yes. But they tore that thing down. I just found that when we went through there last week. They built this huge, like safco or gefco or whatever they call it or something like that. And it is amazing. It's like it's got it added a sandwich there. It's an old pork with macaroni and cheese on Texas toast like in a sandwich. That's where you can get things like that. Yeah, in the gas station in Sonora. Yeah, you're looking for such a treat.
Thomas Mooney 29:45
I was listening to Sports Radio the other day. Bomani Jones, and he was saying how this is weirdly related. I know it sounds like I'm just going off but he was saying how What's his face? The guy His name is he just took the offensive coordinator job for the Falcons. But he had like a one. But he was working for Alabama. And I can't see what his name is. He used to be the USC coach. And long story short, he took this Atlanta job because he was like, yeah, I'm assuming you know, he loved living in LA and just didn't like live in small town, Alabama, and how, you know, you couldn't find good sushi in little Alabama. And he's like, he can't find any like really eclectic things in small towns only good barbecue. And that's kind of like a Yeah. rings. True. Yeah, for sure. Like good barbecue in small towns, but nothing else. Yeah, like Lockhart. Yeah. Yeah, it's just the I don't know why that is. Did but
Mike Harmeier 30:58
there's a Have you seen this, like barbecue festival they're doing and Tyler. It's like, I it's like, I don't know. It's like, I think it's in this in the summertime. I got an awesome lineup. They'd have like every barbecue place I've ever heard of is like going to be at this thing. It's like a barbecue cook off. Except it's just a festival. I think I want to go to it. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 31:22
I'm kind of surprised. There's nothing like that here in Lubbock. Yeah, you know, like a, like, we really don't have like a big festival. You know? I got you got Will's thing now. Yeah, but like, that's just like a day thing in history. Yeah. I mean, like, I mean, it's fucking awesome. But it's not
Mike Harmeier 31:39
like a two day festival. Like you're in a park or something. Yeah. Or like, just like a southpaw type thing where it's like all the bars.
Thomas Mooney 31:47
Yeah. I mean, like, we've got a bunch of day festivals like three. We're, it's hard. It's hard to call it a festivals. Yeah, in my opinion. Like there is a long show. Yeah, long show. Which they're all like day fest. Right. So it's like Jazz Fest wills thing. Which I think like will should just come up with a good name. Other than like, William Green Street show party. Which mean I guess that rolls off the tongue just as well. But then dawn has those two, like Dustbowl and drink, which I think drink it was kind of a catchy name. Yeah, no, I'm a fan of it. The name but we don't have like a two day event. kind of thing. Yeah. And maybe this is what you should be doing is creating this. If anybody wants to like start sponsorships, they can get a hold of me. Talking to talking to you to telco alone. Sorry. If you want to get a hold of me. That is a festival right there. telco at landstar. Present. Right? That's everything you need, man. But you know what I mean, though, is like, you know, like, there's Larry Joe Taylor. And there's like, Lone Star jam. And there's like, I don't know, all kinds of shit. Yeah. Well, it's obviously
Mike Harmeier 33:11
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it is kind of surprising like that. There's not one like anywhere around here.
Thomas Mooney 33:19
Yeah. Now, there used to be this one called. blinking on a tornado jam. Yeah. Which was a big easy thing. III had back in the day, this was early 80s. Throwing together a couple of big show's gone tornado jam out in the weekend z Park. And like one year yeah, like Stevie Ray Vaughan. And like the mains brothers and Terry Allen and I know he had like Linda Ronstadt calm and I think maybe ZZ Top? I don't know. Obviously eally obviously, a bunch of like local gas right. And like the the reason the city, the city is ultimately what shut it down is because they said that these people were just stomping out the native buffalo grass, Ryan Mackenzie Park, and it's gonna die off. You know, that was a reasoning and it's just one of those like, so you're telling me that buffalo which roam this fucking like country? For hundreds of years. They didn't stop this grass out. Yeah, but people of Lubbock, Texas are Yeah, because they're all drunk. But I digress. I mean, I just think it's like, Well, shit.
Mike Harmeier 34:39
I don't know, man. I just just just don't do it in the park anymore. Oh, no, I just do it somewhere else. There's plenty of there's plenty of concrete around
Thomas Mooney 34:49
the Walmart parking lot. Let's see there's a lot of cotton fields and shit. You know, I think like just one of those like hey, cotton field cotton field fast. Yeah, it's easy to cotton fast. why they're not cotton fast? Yeah. Cotton fast or like a wind farm. Something like that good wind fast. Yeah. We can't ever control the weather a beer. If you if you get this together, I'll come here you'll have to come play. We'll just do like Austin bands one day.
Mike Harmeier 35:28
So speaking of domains, brothers, when I was in Alpine the other day, I learned a lot about Alpine. My buddy Neil tramel had bought he went to like a swap meet earlier in the day and bought like 50 records for like 10 bucks. Just this guy was getting rid of them. And one of them was a man's brothers record. Yeah. And had Amarillo highway on it, of course. So they sing this line in there. They say I ain't got no blood veins. Just these four lanes of hard Emerald highway, right? Yeah. I always thought it was blood in my veins. I ain't got no blood in my veins. Just got these four lanes. That's how Robert Earl sings it. Yeah, they say I ain't got no blood veins just straight up. They don't say I think that's like the way Terry does it. You think Terry? I think that Terry says in my veins. I'm not sure. But I know that the Robert one is definitely he says in my veins. It's stuck. It's stuck. It's stuck out to me. So it's got to be something that seemed strange to me. Did you I didn't Google it. Why have you gone to any of those? Terry Allen shows in Austin. Now I was out of town the whole time and but I had a lot of friends. And when he did like two of them right tonight, three nights, maybe two three nights? Yeah, I think so. Dude, I would love to see that.
Thomas Mooney 36:57
Yeah, there's the that the one down in Austin. He didn't want to up here in Lubbock. And this was back in the I guess the spring of last year where they just did luck on everything all in a row. Which was really badass. But I think like the one that I'm most jealous about is the he wasn't really even a show but like the the the Texas gentlemen bat, Kris Kristofferson. Uli and Terry Allen. Yeah, I've ever seen pictures. Like that's just one of those like, holy shit. Yeah. Like that needs to go on the road.
Mike Harmeier 37:29
Yeah, for sure. You know, that Texas gentlemen thing was a great idea that they started doing. Yeah, that was like, pure brilliance. And they've gotten some incredible shows out of it. Like they've backed up. Often. They backed him up at Newport Folk Festival last
Thomas Mooney 37:45
year. Well, I think that's where it happens that way. And then they they they did like they did one in Dallas, I believe. Yeah. And see at that look, reunion this year. Yeah, they're gonna do that. You're doing a big show with like, like Ray Wylie Hubbard, Jonathan Tyler coffin. I can't think of a bunch of names.
Mike Harmeier 38:07
That's such a great day of South that's the only good thing of South by Zachary union. Yeah, that's it.
Thomas Mooney 38:16
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the with the bread. Are you gonna go? Yeah, it takes me a while back about it saying like, hey, they asked me to play. Yeah,
Mike Harmeier 38:22
I was like, That's amazing. I'm looking good. I wanna I want to get anybody to play. I think so bad. I've been trying for a couple years back when Johnny Burke was on the on the team of that thing. I tried to get it Really? Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 38:36
I'm looking up, Amarillo. Hi. Well, I know you are. I want you to find fine. Are you looking at Terry Allen? Well, obviously I just put in hammer. Says I ain't got no blood in my veins. He says in my veins. Got no no, I ain't got no blood blood
Mike Harmeier 38:54
veins. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 38:54
So to Terry says that.
Mike Harmeier 38:56
That's, that's what it is then. Yeah. So he's the one that says I'm gonna have blood in my veins.
Thomas Mooney 39:01
Yeah. Because that's the first one that popped up. And so when I looked on that one, it said, blood in my veins.
Mike Harmeier 39:07
That's crazy that I never noticed that until I heard it on that Maine's record. Yeah, it's weird. What are the records are in there? I think there was there was one. There was some weird ones. And there was some really good ones. There was like some Tom t Hall and stuff in there. He had a guy Clark, south coast of Texas or whatever that Yeah. Which that records awesome that that's produced by Rodney crowl. That record. And Vince Gill is on that record. It's an that's an amazing record. Yeah. There was one though that really caught me off guard. It was rebbi Jackson, which I think is a cousin of Michael Jackson. It's a female. I thought it said Robbie Jackson. But it said rebbi Jackson, and it was produced by Michael Jackson the record and it was only it was called centipede. Yeah, this is stuck with me. So one side A and this is a is a full record. So the side A is just centipede? The song. Yeah. And side B is the instrumental version, isn't it? Yeah. So, on the liner notes, it has Michael Jackson's little shout out. And it says this goes out to all my mannequin friends, Michael Jackson. He dedicated that record doll of his mannequin head.
Thomas Mooney 40:26
See, that reminds me of you know that somebody's watching me by Rocco. See, that's also a like very, I don't know if it's produced by Jackson. But Michael Jackson sings the chorus of that song. So I'm assuming he has a lot to do with it. But I find the strangest thing about that song is like, why didn't Michael Jackson just like Dude, why didn't he just do it all if he's gonna sing the chorus? Because he does the chorus. Like, that's just that's Michael Jackson. Yeah. And then like Rockwell does the all the other stuff. could have just done this.
Unknown Speaker 40:58
Yeah, that that. Uh, I guess maybe it was beneath Michael. Maybe during the 80s Delta did all that he just gonna come in and kill the chorus and get out of there. Yeah. I mean, those 80s 80s Jackson records are just genius. Well, I
Mike Harmeier 41:13
mean, I didn't listen to the centipede record, unfortunately. So I tell him and I may have never seen him before his may not ever see it again. Yeah. But I'm interested to know how many of the how many album credits he has, like on all like, at that time of his life. Yeah, like have any producer credits. Yes. How many things he just sang on? Yeah, like there's somebody out there that knows all of these things. I'm sure like the biggest MJ fan or whatever. Yeah. But I like to see it because that one caught me off guard. The the centipede record. Yeah. Ready.
Thomas Mooney 41:46
Oh, what song is it that him in prints we're gonna do together?
Unknown Speaker 41:50
I don't know. I think it was like bad.
Mike Harmeier 41:53
That would be awesome. What's the song that he has? Doesn't have like Van Halen on a song or something that? Isn't that? Beat it? Is that what it is? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. Eddie Van Halen. Yeah. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 42:09
And of course, there's always those McCartney. Yeah. collabs. Like the girl was mine, for sure. Which does a great. Yeah. What What is your favorite of the 380s records? When I say 80s there's technically only two in the 80s. But off the wall came out in 79, which I consider really just 80s Jackson.
Mike Harmeier 42:30
I don't know, man. I mean, I'm a thriller fan. Yeah, like, pretty hardcore. Yeah, I think I'd have to vote thriller.
Thomas Mooney 42:38
I think like, Thriller is the best of the three. But I just really like off the wall. Yeah, I think like off the wall is the best disco record, ever. That's a good point. But like, Michael Jackson was just like, I don't do disco. But I'm gonna go ahead and just make the best. Yeah. And then of course, like what's crazy, I think is like that bad is technically the most. Like of the 10 songs on it. Like nine of them were singles singles. Yeah. And like number one singles. Just Yeah, crazy. Like, it is crazy. But thrillers a better record, though. Oh, yeah. I think like it's Yeah, it's definitely a better record overall. Yeah. I would say like batch is kind of like the, it's kind of like a singles collection. It's
Mike Harmeier 43:24
a commercial. Kind of, yeah, it's like everything that was popular. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 43:29
But Michael Jackson, what, what's kind of funny is, you know, at some point, back in the 80s, in the 70s, like, everyone thought Prince was the weird one. Right. You know, right. Having, like, you look now, like, five years ago, like Prince is the, like, he's the the street.
Mike Harmeier 43:54
Yeah, then. And, you know, I don't really know about his about Mjs philanthropy. So, like, and you know, the whole thing with prints on that is like, he tried to keep all that hidden for a long time. But then it started to, you know, after his death, kind of see, you know, seep out. Yeah. What's, what's the what's the record for for Michael Jackson? Like, what? What's his record on philanthropy? What did he What did he give his money to?
Thomas Mooney 44:20
Honestly, I have no idea.
Mike Harmeier 44:21
Like, I mean, I can't I never really heard of anything that he did like that. That was like, I mean, you know, this is getting away from the music talk. But it's interesting thing, because there's such high profile pop artists, and you feel like, you know, that's one of the things that you do as a high profile like that. You give back to the world community.
Thomas Mooney 44:43
I have no idea honestly.
Mike Harmeier 44:44
Yeah, I mean, I'd like to know, because I feel like maybe MJ didn't give that much. Maybe MJ was kind of a kind of an asshole. Very possible. But that just goes back to you know, speaking apprentices you know, he's the straight narrow and he's not weird at all. He's just a good dude.
Thomas Mooney 45:05
Yeah, Prince. My favorite thing about Prince is that like, of course, like everyone knows about the Dave Chappelle stories now about the whole, like the, I guess, like, really the Charlie Murphy stories. But like all of those are true. Like, that's what's so funny about them. Is that like, they're all true. Like, Prince was a good basketball player, despite being only like, five two. Yeah, I think he was good at everything. Yeah. Like, obviously one of the best guitar players ever did. That's what's
Mike Harmeier 45:39
Have you seen that footage of where he plays Purple Rain for the very first time. And it's like so, so I can't remember where the show is. But they're trying it out. Like he had just written that song, which, you know, he wrote that song based on Bob Seger his popularity. Oh, really. He thought that he needed like he saw how Bob Seger was like really blowing up these like, arena rock shows, right? And so he figured he needed an arena rock anthem. And that was his answer to like Bob Seger is like Night Moves. Like that was Purple Rain. Anyway, so he tried that song out when I and they recorded this, this live version of them doing it, right. And so they ended up like this solo, the very end of the solo. And the riff, it went so perfectly there that he like, just wrote that on what he had written on the spot. He was just like, making it up as he goes, you know, improvising. And they ended up keeping some of that actual track that they recorded that one night that was I did it on the actual record. Really? Yeah. Just he just killed it so hard on that guitar, they just like, Okay, that was it. Yeah, just I just played the solo for that song. Not doing it again. Yeah. Well, he's another guy who,
Thomas Mooney 46:48
like he's got so many other credits, now, some mainly songwriting credits, because obviously he did like nothing compares to you Sinead O'Connor, right? But he also had like, a bunch of other songs written for other people as well.
Mike Harmeier 47:04
How about have him produce your record? That'd be amazing.
Thomas Mooney 47:07
I know. It would be I think, like you would still be I think prints. Pretty sure record one, you would do it because you're gonna get some really great material on it. But then also, I think you're just gonna have like, one of the strangest experiences as well. You know. I can't remember who he he had rented like a house from somebody. I think it was like a Minnesota football player or basketball player. I cannot remember but like, he ended up getting sued by the basketball player because he had just rented that this house and had like, done all of these changes to it that are just like, what the fuck would you do? Yeah. Really? Like what would you do to my house? I'm saying like there's little prints logo on everything. Well, I mean, like, I think some of the things were like, putting like bathtubs in like strange places. Like that kind of shit. Putting your chairs on the ceiling or something. I can't remember what it would print studio has no shits the HGTV show. I want to see. Prince comes in and remodels your house. Yeah. I mean, do you watch HGTV? Yeah, I do. I think everyone does. Yeah, they just don't want to ever talk about it. Like I
Mike Harmeier 48:27
know. Well, I'm in the market to buy a house. So like I now I know. I watch it a lot. Yeah. I can't stop man. I bought my wife that book about the was like the Magnolia story. Those
Thomas Mooney 48:41
Oh, yeah. Go from waco. Yeah. What's her name? So I can remember their names. Chip and Joanna Gaines. Yeah. She loves them. I think every every years in which
Mike Harmeier 48:52
they're pretty legit man like I said of all the people they could get a reality show doing something like that they're really good at it. Yeah. And I they know it doesn't see it doesn't get like really emotional. Like you know, it's just they just live in their life with a show like that would be difficult to do.
Thomas Mooney 49:08
Yeah, I think like they're great. If you had like a power rankings basically they'd be number one. For sure. Property Brothers I think isn't too
Mike Harmeier 49:19
Yeah, you know they're a country music act.
Thomas Mooney 49:21
I think I heard I never know I think I know that is because I think they played like a song on the on the show episode something like that. And then like, like though Yeah, really? And then like the by far like the the worst is the the people from Flip or Flop? Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I what I hate too is like that HGTV will do these marathons right? until like one day out of the week. It's just you can't watch any shows. It's just Flip or Flop.
Mike Harmeier 49:53
Yeah, but any active back It's crazy. Like if you put it on there. You get lost in it. Like Yeah, they just goes and goes and goes and. And it's hard. Like they're so good at where they put the commercials and like where they switch to the next episode that you'd never really miss a beat. Like they don't they don't put a commercial in between the end of the one episode and the beginning of the next. So you don't have time to walk away from it. Forget that you don't want to be watching that all day. Yeah. What's good scan?
Thomas Mooney 50:19
Yeah, I mean, like, I think it's really great. Really great, like background TV. Yeah, you know, like, just doing shit around the house. But then yeah, if you sit there for too long, you're just gonna be like, Oh, shit. The afternoon is gone by
Mike Harmeier 50:35
it's definitely in my in my house. It's either like HDTV, or like msnbc or CNN on constantly Yeah, and like it's just all background TV in my house is pretty much background. Yeah, I hardly ever like it's like nighttime. I'll sit down and watch like a show. Yeah, but like there's a TV on all the time and it's on one of those three stations.
Thomas Mooney 50:54
Yeah, last time we were here we talked about TV. Like not on the podcast. That was after the show like we got into Oh, yeah. What shows that we were dying man. All the really good. All the good ones. Yeah. gt engine I guess we're like talking about like you were True Detective fan right? Yeah, that's right. We were talking talking about that. And like Game of Thrones Breaking Bad.
Unknown Speaker 51:19
Yeah. All that can be talked about Sopranos a little bit I think Yeah, the wire Did you watch the wire? Yeah, I did. Yeah. I think like the wire, like a
Thomas Mooney 51:30
probably referent like I think like people who watch the wire probably referenced the wire way too often. You know what I mean? And also, I think like people who they don't want to admit when they've not watched the wire because because then like people were just like, What the fuck is wrong? That's that's a bit on a look it Should I just as like, it's hard to tell people you definitely watch them. Because like, I think like people who are just like diehard wire fans have like they're a little pretentious about the Yeah, thing.
Mike Harmeier 52:05
I mean, I guess that happens with some other shows. But definitely the wired the most of those things. But I don't know. I mean, I feel like if you watch the wire, you're probably a show watcher person. Yeah. Like that's, that's the way you are. Yeah, that's something about the wire. Just you get so passionate about it, or like you hold it so close to your heart that you're pissed off when you can't talk about it.
Thomas Mooney 52:27
Yeah, well, I've used probably more analogies from the wire to describe other things. Then like any other show, basically, you know,
Mike Harmeier 52:38
I'm saying so that's your number one. The wires number one. Yeah. Like hands down.
Thomas Mooney 52:42
Not even I think it's like the best show. To rewatchable that's another underrated aspect of TV watching is big surprises. rewatchable is how rewatchable something is. Yeah. Breaking that as rewatchable Yeah. I think last is not rewatchable I tried. Yeah, it's not. But like, you know, that's that kind of thing. Though, I have watched loss like three times. Like, basically, I would watch I guess like after the the fourth or fifth season. I would just like rewatch it all. Just, you know. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, I forgot. And it's strange how like, free watching last, like your opinion on certain characters changes. You're like, you're rooting for her like that. Okay, like the first time I watched it last. Kate, I thought was like, a great character. And like, by the third time I was like, Oh my god, she's
Unknown Speaker 53:34
always fucking shit. Yeah, yeah. And like, yeah, she's like a user. Yeah, like, yeah, she's just like a manipulator. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, once you see he can't go back. Yeah, she can't go. We have to go back, jack. Or Kate. I guess it was to Kate. But yeah. She kept going back to jack though. Yeah. God, that's such a great shout. Yeah.
Mike Harmeier 54:02
It's okay. If you want to watch like one episode, like from like, a mid season thing. Yeah. Like it happens to be on TV. Which last never really happens to be on TV. Yeah, thank you know, it's
Thomas Mooney 54:12
a great rewatchable show. It's always on TV. It's Friday Night Lights. Yeah. That's a that's a that's a good one. I never watched it all the way through. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think it's one of those shows that more than any other show probably was affected by the the writer strike. Yeah. Most most of accents because, like they did lose some. I guess storylines to it. You know, like there's some things that just never get picked back up. You know,
Mike Harmeier 54:47
speaking of the writer strike a Gru fan of like any Aaron Sorkin shows, um,
Thomas Mooney 54:52
I did watch a little bit of sports night. Yeah. I mean, I didn't. I had only I was only able to watch I don't know how many episodes basically got cut off off Netflix before I was. Yeah. I was not a fan of the newsroom.
Mike Harmeier 55:12
I liked the newsroom though. I liked the I liked the characters in the newsroom. And I only really liked like the monologues like just the just the random walk and talks. You know, the Aaron Sorkin walk in talks, those words that you write in that show, but the What's his name? Jeff. What's his name? Whatever, Jeff. Yeah,
Thomas Mooney 55:34
he's gonna say bridges But
Mike Harmeier 55:37
anyway, he is like his monologues regret I thought. Daniels Jeff Daniels. Yeah. All of his like, things were perfect. But there's Yeah, I was like a huge Western fan. Yeah. See, I've always heard like, I saw every episode. I loved it. Incredible. I remember watched so. Bradley Whitford is great that show. Yeah, Martin Sheen is great in that show. Everybody's great in that show. Yeah, it's awesome. It is Aaron Sorkin. It's like that's his that's the best writing he's ever done. Yeah. Does it feel dated? I've watched it recently, like a couple of early episodes. And it's not really. I mean, it does like it was at the time. They used a lot of, you know, actual events. Yeah, in the show. So it was pretty current to that time. But it's still it's, it's more. It's grander than that. Yeah. So it's more about ideas than it is about you know, just certain moments in time. It's like it's a it's a really well written show, man. It's the best Aaron Sorkin thing. I tried to watch that Studio 60 show that he had and it wasn't that good. Oh,
Thomas Mooney 56:37
really? Yeah. See? I guess like, what other shows does he has he had
Mike Harmeier 56:42
he that I think there's there's one more that I can't think of because he had newsroom. Studio 60 Sports night. And West Wing. There's something else something has that he was a writer on, but he wasn't that. Yeah. Like, like,
Thomas Mooney 56:57
I know, he did like the the screenplay for like the social network. Yeah. Stuff like that.
Mike Harmeier 57:02
Yeah, cuz he also did that. That movie about the apple dude. Oh, jobs, or there's been like he did the one that was not Ashton Kutcher. Yeah, he did the other one. Who was that? Like? Yeah, Michael Fassbender. Yeah. Yeah, he wrote that thing. And that was a terrible movie.
Thomas Mooney 57:22
Yeah. See, I've never heard about I'm not really a big movie guy. Yeah. I'm more of a TV show. Dude.
Mike Harmeier 57:30
I think I am not you. I think I think I think a majority of people are that way. Now. I feel I really lost a lot more than used to be
Thomas Mooney 57:36
Yeah. What's your like, your TV idea? Like, what would you think would be a great TV show?
Mike Harmeier 57:44
I don't know. Man. I every time I try to think of a TV show. It's always like a reality TV show. Like, which sucks because I hate reality TV. Like, that's why there's so many of them. Because every idea you have for a reality TV show is a pretty decent idea. Yeah, like that. They'll probably put that on television.
Thomas Mooney 58:02
Yeah. I do think like a great they need I think like a Friday Night Lights, but like a basketball version would be great. Something like in the middle because you're a basketball fan. Well, yeah. Cuz I'm a basketball fan. But like somewhere like in the Midwest? Yeah. Maybe like, or like an inner city kind of place like Detroit or something. Yeah, you can go like inner city, Detroit or like small town, Indiana. Something like that. I think like a, a Texas version of like, Nashville. I never watch Nashville. But like the idea I'm like, yeah, there's there could be like a Texas version of that.
Mike Harmeier 58:40
I could see that. I mean, that that's some See that's like that where my kind of thing comes into play. There would be like more like, yeah, yeah. My reality show. Yeah, of just doing this all the time. Yeah. But I don't know if it would work, man. I mean, the Nashville thing is so like, you know, I've seen a couple episodes in Nashville, right. And the way that show works is nothing like anything in Nashville works. And like that, just like that. Show roadies that was on Showtime for a little bit. It was nothing like yeah, like being a roadie or being like backstage, you know? I mean, yes, absolutely. Nothing like that. I feel like the Texas you just be super critical. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The Texas we're now like, it would just be a bunch of dudes roaming around in bars drinking blood style. Hey, I mean, like, that is a show, right? Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's great. I'd watch it. I mean, I guess I'd watched myself do that all the
Thomas Mooney 59:32
time. Yeah. I read anything. Like if you did a show like that. People would just think that like people in bands are just a little too fragile. Little too because you'd have to create drama. You know, you can't let's see you have to have some turmoil.
Mike Harmeier 59:49
That's that's another thing about I remember whenever that when Jeff Tweedy was talking about that, I'm trying to break your heart movie. And he was like, You can't film something or document something with that. In some way affecting and yeah, I mean, yeah, so there's no really way you can get a true outsider perspective that does not affect what's actually happening. So like when we're in the van, if you're going to film that and put that on TV, it's obviously not going to be what happens in the van normally. Yeah, because there's a camera. Yeah, right.
Thomas Mooney 1:00:18
I don't think like you can ever I know a lot of people think they're saying that. I Oh, you just forget the cameras there. But it's a way What are you talking about? There's a dude with a fucking talk. You know, like be like a, I'm assuming in a lot of the reality shows. There's a dude with a boom, mic
Mike Harmeier 1:00:38
down for sure. There's some guy standing over your shoulder the whole time? I just don't think I did. They asked they asked my wife if she wanted to have a reality show for that. She owns a her and her parents own a wedding venue in Georgetown. And so that this show is like looking for independent run wedding venues. Which, you know, this probably be annoying those HGTV type shows. Yeah. But the idea of like them coming in and like they're filming you five days a week, four days a week or whatever. But they're in every aspect of your life. Like they're in your house. Yeah. You know, like, and like, it's already you know, like, hostile enough. Just like working with your own family. Yeah. Like if you put like, three people, three people, three man crew, there were four days a week. You know, people be killed. Yeah, I don't know. It just seemed like a miserable situation to be in. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 1:01:32
I think that's why I think like a TV route would be better. Like it were. I mean, like a, like a drama. Drama would be better just because you're like, Yeah, you got to write all that down. Yeah. you've ever have you ever written a script before? No, I'm not. Because I mean, like, I've read scripts, and that's the reason why I've been like, no, this is like so much fucking. Yeah. You know, I think what you have to do is like you have to write down, you have to write like a short story. And then you have to go back and
Mike Harmeier 1:02:03
draft and draft a draft. So then you write like, Okay, this is what it looks like, outside. And then yeah, screenplay stuff. But I don't know. You could hire a script. You could just write the dialogue and then you can hire a screenplay writer to come in and yeah,
Thomas Mooney 1:02:16
I guess you would just do is like you would be head writer. Grant and just be like, these are my ideas. Now get them No, that doesn't make sense. You have to just be the editor. Yeah, for sure. worker of of
Unknown Speaker 1:02:31
takes a lot of people to make this TV show. Yeah. The reality show you just get three people to show up in your garden.
Thomas Mooney 1:02:37
Yeah, it's so much cheaper. That's the reason reality shows are just because it's so much cheaper to to make, but they're ruining the fabric of America. Very much are. So anyways, though. Wanna go grab a beer? Yeah, I'm out. Let's go do that. Yeah.
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