020: Rodney Parker & 50 Peso Reward
Episode 020 is with Ft. Worth singer-songwriter Rodney Parker. We talk about Parker's recently finished third studio album Bomber Heights, working with Matt Pence, Parker's Lubbock ties, and the songs of the band's pair of EPs, The Apology I and II.
Interview Transcript
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Thomas Mooney 0:05
Hey everyone, welcome to Episode 20 of the new slang podcast. I'm Thomas Mooney, the editor in chief of new slang here in Lubbock. And this week on the podcast, we have one of my good friends, Rodney Parker on, he has this new record coming out called bomber heights, it's going to be coming out in September, the 16th. And he's played some CD really shows already that if you went to one of those shows, you already have a copy of bomber heights. But anyways, like officially, the record comes out the 16th of September. And if you look on new slang today, or for the rest of the week, really, you're gonna be able to find a stream of one of the the new songs on the record. And anyways, yeah, so we sat down a few weeks back when he was here in Lubbock, and we just talked for, I don't know, probably about an hour and a half or so just about music and sports and whatnot. And then, you know, then he played blue light. And, you know, I'm telling you, like, Ronnie Parker's band has always just been so sonically dynamic, there's a lot of like, really cool things that they've done over the years, this record is very much the same. Just kind of like in a different direction, though, it's a little bit more mellow, a little bit more chill. And not that he's never focused on the songs, but like, it feels like this. This batch of songs is about the stories within the songs, more so than even before, I guess. So anyways, yeah. Just a few notes that we should probably get out of the way. If you're not following new slang on all your social media, go ahead and do that. We're at the new slot, or we're at New slang, underscore lbk at all that I'm missing all this stuff up. We're at New slang, underscore lbk on Twitter, you can search for us on Facebook, on Instagram, all that kind of good stuff. If you don't subscribe to the to the podcast already. Go ahead and do so if you can go ahead and rate us and give us a review on iTunes. It'll help us out. And if you're a songwriter, and you're not signed up for the singer, songwriter competition coming up at blue light, go ahead and do so like it's going to be coming up this September. There's gonna be five weeks of preliminary rounds. And then that finals is going to be Monday, October 19, I believe 17th October 17. So if you're a songwriter, and you haven't signed up, go ahead spots are going up pretty quickly. Like I said, there's five preliminary rounds a September 12 19th 26th, October 3, and 10th. And yeah, much like every other year. You know, three people move on each week and in the finals, all in this case. 15 of the Songwriters will be then going against each other, and we'll have a winner and runner up and all this kind of good stuff. So yeah, anyways, if you're a songwriter, and you haven't signed up, go ahead and do so. Just a couple other notes. Thursday, September 8, and Friday, September 9 flatland cavalry will be playing a back to back show at blue light, they'll be playing both those nights that Thursday is going to be with Troy Cartwright. And at Friday is going to be with Caitlin butts. And yeah, like right now they're selling tickets. There's only like 100 presale tickets available to those shows, they're going to be sold out fairly quickly. So if you are interested in going to either or both of those shows, go out and get your tickets now. We will be having a raffle. We're not necessarily raffle, but like we'll be giving away a pair of tickets that are good for both of those nights. Look on Twitter on our Facebook for details on that pretty soon. Some other little interesting notes. You know, last week we had Zach mcquinn of Dali shine on
there breaking up as a band. There's one more. There's a I guess, one more set of shows that they're doing as a farewell tour, if you will. One of those shows is going to be at blue light. That's Wednesday, September 14. Go ahead and go to their official website for other shows that they're doing. Like I said, like they'll be playing shows pretty much through the end of September before their eventual breakup. And then also, you know, right now, for these next two weeks, we're doing this sweet 16 tournament for Dalton dominoes, Dustbowl. And so right now you can go out and go vote on all these different songwriters, dominoes Dustbowl is gonna be coming up in October. That's the 12th. It's a Thursday. And it's a really, really great lineup so far. Just for example, there's going to be six market Boulevard Sean McConnell Wallace, Alan Ramsay, Adam hood. Jason Ed. Ben Hussey Caitlin Butz, Travis meadows, john D. Hale, Courtney Pat and Charlie stout, Brandon Adams, Johnny Burke. A lot of other great songwriters anyways, the sweet 16 thing that we're doing is a bracket of, you know, 16 up and coming songwriters and artists, and one of those will win in this bracket. So go ahead and go to new slang, loving, calm, find our bracket and go in and vote. There's, like I said, 16 artists on there. And there's 16 songs. So if you haven't heard of these heard of these bands, go ahead and listen to them. It's great way to find new music. When we're getting all the songs in and everything from them. It was really cool hearing these artists that, you know, aren't necessarily well known, but like there, there's a there's some potential in all of them. Just for a rundown of who's involved is going to be Cody Jasper Denny hair, Heron, Billy holder, awesome McManus, Eddie sands, Gander, slew. Jackie Darlene Cody West. Zach coffee, Elena Kay. Skylar Hamilton Davis, Alan Kirk baxley, Jamie Weston, but, uh, Baba Wesley, and Ben McKenzie. So um, yeah, go ahead and go to new slang Lubbock calm. Find that. And, yeah, anyways, I guess. Right now, I'm just gonna be rambling on if I don't just stop myself. So we'll go and get on to the interview with Rodney. So yeah, here it is. Yeah, it's been a while since you've been over here.
Rodney Parker 7:32
Yes, it has, it has, I'm glad to be back. Um, I guess the last time I was here, it was when I came up with red and Charlie. That was progress this last winter. But with the band, The pesos, I don't think it might might be like, a year, year and a half or two years since we've been here. Which is odd, you know, but that, you know, we took a lot of time off to make this record end up taking us way longer than we thought we was going to, you know, we started this record in September of last year. And we're just not putting it out in September. So, what time what we thought was going to be just a little time off to make the record turned out to be like, nine months, you know, that was okay, you know, we It was good for us to recharge the batteries a little bit. And, you know, and be home and then be excited to get out on the road and play shows. You know, we've been doing it for 12 years, and we never really took a break. So it was it was cool, but I'm glad it's over.
Thomas Mooney 8:32
Yeah. You when you when you're like, you know, off that break. Is there anything in the back of your head thinking like, man, we got a we got to get out there because I don't want people to forget us.
Rodney Parker 8:47
Yeah, totally, totally. That always drove me crazy. Yeah. Well, so this is the first time I've ever done this. And I was thinking that, you know, what was supposed to be like, let's take off. Maybe from, you know, we'll start like up in January or something. And we'll say, October, November, December, to make the record. After that, and we still weren't done and there was no end in sight, then I was like, it was driving me crazy. You know, and I was like, we got to get back out on the road. Not not only because, you know, it's, you know, you can't you can't break very long as it's bad for your career, but I'll just just my state of mind, like I don't, you know, this. I like doing it. I want to get out and play shows. I mean, luckily, I still go and play acoustic all the time. But you know, it's not the same. The band. You know, we were we've always been a band first and then me an acoustic performer. Yeah, as a secondary thing.
Thomas Mooney 9:46
You were doing that with red and Charlie a lot though. Yeah, it's passed. Yeah.
Rodney Parker 9:50
So that was that was fun when we were you know, I love doing that with him. Because they're both so talented one and a great dude to be with on the road. But It's so cool format because, you know, when you're shopping, you know, when it's when I'm performed just by myself acoustic, and I don't like doing I don't feel like it's it's not good enough, you know, to be able to swap it those guys and we all play on each other stuff. And that was really fun. And so, you know, we did several little runs where we like we did to Knoxville, Tennessee and back.
Thomas Mooney 10:26
Yeah, I was gonna say like you guys went up there.
Rodney Parker 10:27
Yeah, went up there and played shows up and down there and then you know, we'd come out here for some days and stuff. So that that helps to kind of cure the itch of needing to get out and be on the road. But, you know, we need to be playing full band shows.
Yeah. When you're when you're out on the road with other songwriters who are known songwriters. Like what do you guys talk about? You know, I was I can see like, shafter just being all over the place. He's very much all over the place. I mean, I guess just any and everything. You know, we do talk about music a lot. But But you know, that's not all. You know, shafter is definitely you know, it's good. To have a podcast so so you know,
he's, he's got he's got some crazy theories on Bigfoot, and all sorts of all sorts of crazy stuff. But those guys are great to be on the road with. We've got another show coming up at the Live Oak with us three in a week or two. So that's, I'm looking forward to it.
Thomas Mooney 11:41
Yeah. See, I've always thought like, I'm sure this is against the code of song swaps, but I always thought it would be so funny. Like to be the first person and the first song you play is like the guy like the best song. The next guy, just like, you know.
Rodney Parker 11:59
It's a good trick. I'm gonna I'm down. I'm totally gonna do that one of these days.
Thomas Mooney 12:04
Yeah. You might get your ass kicked like it right now. But like, if you do it, like at 65 or something like that, they're gonna be like, Oh, that's just it's just old. Right? Oh, crazy. Rodney. Yeah. That's a great idea that I don't know. I think I'm hilarious. I'm gonna do it. I just got to figure out who I'm gonna do it to. Yeah. I think like, Charlie, oh, just like, whatever. You carry here. As you're great. Because that means I don't have to play. Yeah. I don't know. Do you think red would have a an ego about it? No, I think red would get mad. You think you might
Rodney Parker 12:44
know I don't think he get mad. I don't say both of those guys. All they all I do is cut up and laugh and make jokes and stuff. So now I wouldn't try it on stranger. Yeah, of course not. I definitely wouldn't read could though. You know, he's giant. He should do that. Yeah, no one's gonna kick his ass. Or at least, I mean, he's he's a pretty large man. So he's, he could pull it off a lot better than I could.
Thomas Mooney 13:09
Yeah. Was he you do it with red? Just don't do it to read. write and read will have your back. Yeah, it's one of those things. Yeah. Yeah, so this, this new record. I keep on forgetting the name of it bomber heights, bomber heights, where the name come from.
Rodney Parker 13:29
I'm moved to it's a neighborhood. It's my neighborhood in fourth grade. It's called bomber heights. And I moved there about two years ago. And, you know, it was it was kind of a point in my life when I was, you know, restarting stuff. And so I moved out there and, and I thought that, that kind of coincided great with the shifting way we viewed the band, you know, and what we wanted to do and what we, what were the future of the band, and I thought, well, it's this home and my situation is brand new, and it's called bomber heights. Let's call the record that.
Thomas Mooney 14:09
Yeah. Because it's been one of the songs though, too. Right?
Rodney Parker 14:12
Right. It's in row between that insult Yeah,
Thomas Mooney 14:14
so you know the record obviously a lot better than I do. Even though I've listened to it like the last week. I always felt like records you know, when you're listening to him, that's what I kind of hate doing like album reviews. Just because you're you're expected to know the record within like a week or two. I'm like, Well, I mean, I'm not gonna know this record. Okay, you got a little bit in total. Wow. Yeah, intensely like, you know, yeah. How is it with you though, like on the other side, you're around these songs for since the
Rodney Parker 14:47
beginning. Yeah. You get tired of them. Sometimes. Yeah. These are still new enough in this record is still new enough. I'm not tired of these. And there are some songs that I never get tired. But there's definitely some that, you know, when they come up on the setlist. I'm like, oh, man, okay. But but still these now I mean, even though we have listened to it so much and for so long, it seems it's still it's still in that exciting mode for me So, but I will find a way to get tired of it if it's
Thomas Mooney 15:23
you you mentioned you like the record, it took a while a while longer than you thought it was, what was the reasoning on that what? Well, mainly what it was was,
Rodney Parker 15:35
you know, we did have some, you know, scheduling issues and like logistics and stuff, but we spent a lot more time tracking than I had anticipated. We spent five weeks tracking, you know, five days a week. So, and we've never took that long to track record, you know, and then it was another two weeks to mix. And of course, those five those were spread out, you know, but um, and the reason it took so long tracking was we I think we afforded ourselves like the luxury of of trying stuff out. And, and, you know, if this doesn't work, well, let's scrap that part and get a different instrument or Let's change keys or, you know, there were several songs where we just like we were pretty far along with and we're just like, this is working, delete, we're not, we're just start from the beginning, start over and get it to where it needed to be. And so by having that philosophy, it took a lot longer than I had anticipated. But I think but in the end, it was worth it to me.
Thomas Mooney 16:37
Yeah. Is that partly like? Like your first records, most of the songs are always just gonna be a little bit more battle tested, because you're playing them more. Right, and you kind of have a better idea of what direction they're going in. Yeah,
Rodney Parker 16:51
yeah. Well, and and a lot of times, too, yes, that's a good way to put it also, you know, not all not all the time, can you afford to spend a lot of time in the studio, so you better come in with them how they're going to be, and you just have to play them as a band. And that's, that's, that's your record? Yeah. And so we were lucky to be able to, to take the time and, and, and experiment.
Thomas Mooney 17:21
Yeah, you've, you've always kind of been I guess, like a loving songwriter by proxy, it's always felt like you're part of the club.
Rodney Parker 17:32
And I love that I love that about this town and I we've become we come here so much that it really does feel like a home away from home. I know that it's a cliche. And, you know, I guess that that started because if there's four Cowboys, and you know, I love all those guys. And and they were the first band to sort of take us under their wing. And by that, you know, and coming up here all the time, we've met so many great friends. And I hope it always stays that way. You know, I'm, I don't ever want to stop coming here.
Thomas Mooney 18:11
Yeah. I guess like fluids always talked about how I think he you know, he said he saw y'all his first show, because y'all y'all are opening for Yeah, them like in? Yeah, we're probably gonna make it up. But like, somewhere in New Mexico
Rodney Parker 18:25
for Santa Fe. Yeah. Yeah. It was the first show I ever played ever was opening for what, you know, I looked into this just, but it was the first show ever, and I was playing with thirst for cowboys and divots kit. And, and so I went out there and then me immediately he and I were just like, I mean, that night we got on out, you know, got drunk together. And then, you know, I listened to their stuff all the way home and I was driving cuz it was just mean, I didn't have a band yet at that point. And yeah, I mean, just after the after that first day, we were like best friends. You know?
Thomas Mooney 19:00
Yeah. What year was that? Like?
Rodney Parker 19:02
To be in like, had to have been 2001 or 2002? Maybe 2002? I think? Yeah. So it's a long time ago.
Thomas Mooney 19:11
Yeah. Yeah. So you've been, I guess, familiar with their sword cowboys? discography kind of been introduced to it as it's come along.
Rodney Parker 19:23
Yeah, I think I think then they had a couple of, I think they had two records out or maybe just just the one.
But yeah, but I definitely as they sort of grew and transformed, you know, out there to sort of witnesses we've always played shows together. You know, of course, I hear the records as soon as they come out before they come out even. Yeah, so that was that was awesome. You know, to see, they were always inspiring to us, you know, like they're, they're the reasons like we, we do the things that we do the band like have, you know, the crazy stop for Or the weird rhythmic stuff or whatever.
That all comes from watching thrift store cowboys shows. You know, we definitely would not be the band that we are without them.
Thomas Mooney 20:10
Yeah. We were if it was you or someone else who's talking about Did you guys go like thrift store? Y'all and like one one will? Yeah, like on this West Coast. Yeah, we're
Rodney Parker 20:22
we did. We went like I guess we started here. And then we went west out to LA and then all the way up to Seattle. You know, playing the whole way. Yeah. And then back down through, you know, yutan in the in Colorado and all that stuff. And God that was, it's a miracle. We all made it out of that. Talk about some wild times. It was so much fun, though. Yeah, I don't know how many shows it was I think it was like 18 shows or, or 15 shows or something like that. But, you know, man, rowdy rowdy nights.
Thomas Mooney 20:58
Yeah. I think like, you know, that's, of course, like in Texas. It's always kind of like the the weekend warrior kind of stuff. Thursday, Friday, Saturday shows. Of course, like a lot of big bands, they'll go out on, you know, 10 plus date tours. You know, that? That, that that right? There was a, you said like, 18 days. Yeah,
Rodney Parker 21:21
there's or at least seemed like 15. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was it was, it was a long time. And, you know, that's pretty worn out by the end of it.
But, you know,
it's, I do it again, with with, you know, a band like that, that I love, but going by ourselves, you know, I don't know, sometimes it's just like, when you're out in like, Minneapolis playing on a Tuesday night to like, two people You did? Or am I doing here? So yeah, but, you know, it wasn't like that with them. Because, you know, at the very least, you're going to be partying with like, your favorite band.
Thomas Mooney 22:04
Yeah. At least you have like 10 members
or something like that.
Rodney Parker 22:11
That was actually a pretty well attended tour, because that was a route that they did do a lot or did a lot. And so they would have on the shows, and we would just open but
Thomas Mooney 22:23
I don't know if there's really anyone from Lubbock, who's gone out like that in a while. I don't like no dry County. Are there Colorado right now? In Colorado? Yeah. There's been a whole lot of like West Coast. exploration. Yeah. I think like rattlesnake milk. Yeah. Has, but
Rodney Parker 22:40
it's tough to do. Because, you know, it costs a lot of money. And, and, you know, because you're not gonna make as much out there it shows because no one knows is your your, it's also tough, because there's no point doing it unless you plan on doing it quite a few times. Right. Yeah. You know, if you're not going back, if you don't plan to go back to LA, you know, at least once a year, you know, preferably more than up really is kind of not a point in doing it. Yeah, this is just for fun.
Thomas Mooney 23:13
Yeah, that's always that's the thing I think everyone does is the whole it's the first time it doesn't work like delicious. abandon it thing, right. You know, it's like, you got to do it more than you got to keep doing it. That's what I think like that's one of my problems with Ludvig are criticisms on this problem. Like a lot of times here in Lubbock, people will try something out. And then it's like, well, this one time it didn't didn't work. So yeah, well fuck it.
Rodney Parker 23:42
Well, people are like that everywhere. Yeah. But yeah, you really do. You gotta you gotta keep beating, not beating, beating it up, you know? And, you know, it's tough, but you got to do it.
Thomas Mooney 24:00
Yeah, of course. What have you been listening to lately? Man, I think give you that opening. And I don't even know. I always hate that question.
Rodney Parker 24:13
mean, if so much stuff, you know, there's nothing that's like, Oh my god, I gotta tell you about this. You never heard of this band? You know? And a lot of times a lot of times I just I'll, I mean, listen to the classics, the same as everybody, you know, I mean, verse you know, or, or Paul Simon or whatever. But as far as like a new band that that I've been jamming a lot, and I haven't and that maybe people aren't talking about yet or are they aren't that well known? I don't have one right now. Which which sucks. I need to I need to maybe explore a little bit more.
Thomas Mooney 24:49
Yeah. Yeah. Well, at some point, like, you just kind of stop exploring. Yeah, like most people just yeah, that's around like right after they get into or out of college. You know, they just stop Yeah, and that's the music they like from for the rest of their life. Yeah, that's why I like all your kids bands, you know? Yeah. Yeah. This generation. Yeah.
Rodney Parker 25:07
Yeah. That's true. And I don't want to I don't want to be that way. I don't think I am. It's just I don't have anything on top of my head right now or I want to find something to get, you know, want to find some band that, that that? No One No One No one knows about. I want to be the cool kid.
Thomas Mooney 25:29
Yeah. Yeah. So. So you can just be like, have you ever heard of these totally mega Dad? You guys are so lame. And yeah, yeah. I always find that. I can remember where we were talking. Oh, it was with Drew Kennedy on this very podcast, talking about how you always hate to win somebody? Like shirts, the same band as you like, yeah, they're you're also your favorite band. And then they go, Well, have you heard this by them? And that other person's like, no. And then they're like, well, then you're not really you're not really. And instead of just being like, Well, hey, let me get you a copy of this. Yeah, you really enjoy it. You know? Like, yeah, thing. Oh,
Rodney Parker 26:10
I know. Yeah. It's like sometimes people take such ownership and they're like, Man that, you know, they don't want anyone else to for know, sometimes, you know? Yeah. Or you weren't there from the beginning or whatever, is a premium filler thing.
Thomas Mooney 26:26
I think it's for me now, it's not necessarily that it's always like, anytime I okay, like in the last six months, there's been a whole lot of stuff written about Terry Allen. And I'm always like, man, I should have written that. Like they shouldn't have got that person I should have. Yeah. should have been. So I just want to have like claim of all Terry Allen's No, no, no, no, nobody else. That's my that's my deal. And you guys don't understand it. Yeah. Which is very pretentious. Very. It's all right. Everybody knows it. Everybody does. I do the same thing. I do the same thing. It's funny. Yeah. You guys open for Turnpike the other day, right. Yeah. And Houston. Yeah. Houston. Was it just one day or two?
Rodney Parker 27:08
It was just one okay. It's when we got another was like a we got another one coming up. But in a week or two, we're in Bowser city with him again. And then we're gonna have some more in the fall. I think they're, they're taking a lot of time off in September because well, I think they just take a time off. But when they come back in October, I'm supposed to supposed to be doing some more dates with Yeah, love it. I mean, that's those are super fun show, you know. Yeah. Their frickin packs sold out. Yeah. You know,
Thomas Mooney 27:39
of course they're it's sold out, I guess. Like right now. Dalton. Dalton dominoes playing up somewhere, I guess somewhere in Kansas or something like that. Both shows obviously sold out. Yeah. But that ban Turnpike? You know, that's kind of in a way like a sister band or brother band. I don't want to say sister ban. Yeah, because you guys have a couple mutual. Yeah, we have inmates it's right. gave
Rodney Parker 28:06
their drummer was our drummer for a really long time. And he played on the lonesome darts. He played all the drums on that. And then, so he's with them now. And then also, Hank early plays pedals still for them and up by pedestal for us to think he's played on once, you know, he played all the steel on this new record and on logic two, and on apology one so he was with us for a long time. We've known those guys for a really long time. Yeah, you know. I don't know how long ago we met him, you know, but we've known him for a really long time. And we always had a good time together. So yeah, in a way that were kind of was was one of those bands that you know, you're linked to always will be, you know, purchase walk by and flip me off.
Thomas Mooney 28:54
I don't know what happens on this podcast if it's during the week. Yeah. Usually, like, we'll come around this time of day, but usually there's a little bit more people coming through. Yeah. And so like we're set up over here in the pool room, which is fine. I mean, there's a little ambience happening. No big deal. But then people walk in and we're like, talking real loud. And then they'll just be like, Oh, fuck, are you guys on the radio? Like, just don't worry about it. Like,
Rodney Parker 29:20
just walk on by leave us alone. Yeah, you know, no, Brooks was trying to sabotage us.
Thomas Mooney 29:25
Yeah, so Well, of course, there's always the bandmates. Yes, Yes, that's true. As long as he didn't do it on stage. Yeah. He did it with a when I had the the one with Paul coffin. They combined bringing this beer so they were like contributing to Oh, see right here we go. I take it back. What I said bro. Excellent. He read my mind. Yeah. What's been like the worst show you've ever had to
Rodney Parker 29:57
dude. I played some Some really shitty shows. one that comes to mind. one that comes to mind is played at this place in Laredo that it was just awful. And everyone hated us. And they it was there was such a rough place that they had the actually had the chicken wire, like not as a joke. Luckily, they didn't hate us bad enough to throw stuff at us. But that one was just like, oh, brutal. You know, like that. I remember the manager came up when we were on break and was like, you guys have to play different stuff. Like he can't keep playing this the same stuff. Like this is what we did. We don't know any other stuff. Yeah, it was just miserable. Another bad one was we played at the momos maybe in Austin, and there was actually no one there. Like not even a bartender or a sound guy. Like there's zero people in the room. Besides, we're like, well, like, I guess we'll keep playing the song and practice and practice. Yeah, that one. That one was pretty funny. And we've had shows where like, you know, especially, you know, Austin is a tough town, but like one another time in Austin. You know, after soundcheck, or after soundcheck and doors open and all that then about 10 minutes before we're supposed to play they're like you guys don't just we're gonna close just take all your shit don't even play.
Thomas Mooney 31:29
See, the thing is they probably had the conversation like while y'all were checking Yeah,
like,
after they sound check, let's just go in. Yeah, we don't want to no one's gonna, no one's gonna come. So yeah. That's always weird about Texas, like Texas is a great state to play music in. You know, everyone always says, you know that you come to Texas, and there's places to play. But like, still, there's some markets in Texas that are just kind of you don't ever really hear about their music scene or hear about them being a place where people go watch or listen, you know? Like, what what, which were like you just mentioned like Laredo, I've always heard like, a lot of bad things. Not necessarily bad things. But how hard it is to play in like El Paso No, right.
Rodney Parker 32:16
You know, I put a password once. Yeah, it is great. But it's so big that, that there are parts that like, Mike for first, you know, American or say, Houston can be hard town. Yeah, or has been for us, you know. And I think it's it has a lot to do with how much radio support you get out there. And so in like East Texas is, that's where I'm from. So I spend a lot of I do spend a lot of time out there. They're just sort of now sort of embracing the, you know, Americana or Texas country or whatever you want to call it on the radio stations. And so that in turn, means that up until now, you know, you would have a pretty rough time drawing anybody out there? Yeah. Which I always thought was such a shame because, like, you know, I love it out there. It's beautiful. Likewise, you know, I just wish it was a, you know, a little bit more vibrant.
Thomas Mooney 33:15
Yeah. more accepting. Yeah. More, just more knowing about. Yeah, just,
Rodney Parker 33:22
I just wish they, you know, had had kind of better radio, but they're changing that now. And I think with that, though, there will be a culture change of finding local music. Yeah. But yeah,
Thomas Mooney 33:36
I hope so. Anyway, you're just saying that just because you want them to scream bomber heights on repeat. That's, that's very good. marketing ploy right there. No, no.
Rodney Parker 33:53
That's funny that there was a website that for like, one day where you could type in your,
like, your,
your record, that on Spotify, you type it into this other website, and it would play it like non stop somehow, like multiple times, like, like 100 plays a second or something like that. You can make a bunch of money. Because our you know, because the streams, you know, eventually do add up, but they get shut down, like a day into it. I didn't do it. But a bunch of my friends texted me like, hey, do you can go this website to do this thing?
Thomas Mooney 34:30
Yeah, there was a, I guess a product two years ago, there was a band who put out a record. Like they figured, I guess like, for each play, you had to play a song, a minimum, like for a playdough account, a minimum of like 40 seconds or something like that, or a minute, I can't remember that is like, like a minute or something. Okay, but what they did was they made a record and all it was was silence and they told like all their friends, all their fans and friends to play it at night. From like your eye when you go to bed to like, right when you wake up No. Or if you're like, if you're at if you're at work, just play and like he would play. And then like finally Spotify caught on. So like they they still pay them because they took the record off and what they had enough money to fund the actual records. That's brilliant. Yeah. You did this can you say? No, I don't know who it is. I don't know who. But so that in one way, it's brilliant. But then also, it's like, I can't remember the name of that. It was the Rolling Stone. Tom Petty. I think he's the one he's what he needed some his money. His GoFundMe didn't kick in. Yeah. Have you guys ever done that?
Rodney Parker 35:45
I haven't yet. thought about it. I thought about it a lot, but I just haven't haven't done that yet. But I know it works wonders for people.
Thomas Mooney 35:55
Yeah. What uh, always, like looking and seeing like the obviously there's gonna be a but you can get a CD, mp3 download t shirt. poster. But sometimes there's just some like weird shit you can get. Yeah, not necessarily weird shit, but like some like Oh, I didn't think like anyone was gonna example like drew Kennedy on his. You could buy like a baseball hat with like a drew can it like a new, like limited edition drew Kennedy logo or something like Oh, really? You know? Yeah. So don't people do like house shows and stuff, too. Yeah. That's, that's awesome. Yeah. I've always wondered how. Why, like, certain venues just won't pay for a house show. Or like a show? Like on there. You know what I mean? Like, Oh, yeah. Because some, I'm sure it'd be cheaper on some it would be cheaper technically. But like, typically also, when you buy a house show, you're getting like all the cool stuff. Like if you're the owner, you'd get like all the cool stuff. Yeah. And then book the bank. I don't know.
Rodney Parker 37:01
Yeah, that's that's a good idea. I wonder if the band has the right to be like, no, we're not gonna Yeah, do that. I don't know.
Thomas Mooney 37:09
Man. Oh, you know, I always thought it would be cool to this is kind of related to this, but not really. I think it would be awesome if there's like baseball cards for bands.
Rodney Parker 37:21
I would I would love that I because actually, I was a baseball card nerve when I was a kid. And so Zach is x that actually used to work for Beckett magazine, you know, the magazine that shows you how much they're worth. So he's got a bunch of like, really cool stuff. But I still have mine from when I was a kid actually went through it and look the other day. And I found a Derek Jeter rookie card. So that was pretty cool. Yeah, I didn't know I had, like, it's not one that I bought. It was just in my big stack of stuff.
Thomas Mooney 37:46
Yeah. I've got a closet full of baseball and basketball and football. Oh, really? Yeah. I guess like I thought, like, there for a minute. I was like, Man, I'm gonna, you know, really look through them and see what I can sell on eBay. And then, you know, like, a couple of days looking through. I was just like, shit. This is like, too much effort too much work to like, figure out what is actually worth of value. Yeah, I
Rodney Parker 38:11
know. There's probably some in there that like, are aircards or you know, or that you wouldn't just know the guy's name, but like, yeah, you have to like look up what
Thomas Mooney 38:19
I know. Look, one of the cards is a Brett Farve rookie card, but he misspell his his last name. Really? Yeah,
Rodney Parker 38:25
they do the RV thing or whatever. Yeah. That's cool. That's got to be like worse than some.
Thomas Mooney 38:31
I don't know. It's uh, I'm sure it is somewhere. Yeah, but then I don't know. I don't know the baseball cards. So you've collected?
Rodney Parker 38:39
Yeah, I did. I did. I loved it. Yeah. But yeah, I'm for your idea of a baseball card. And rubber bands or bands. Yeah. And you can put like, instead of sort of your stats on my back, it could be like, what bands you are with, you know, like, per year? Yeah. years. Yeah. Like, how many shows and like, how many records you put out and stuff? Yeah, pretty cool.
Thomas Mooney 39:02
How many times fired? Yeah, shit like that. Like, I don't know. I think it'd be fun. It would be it would be awesome. You know, I just don't need to get blue light to make them. Yeah, I was honestly thinking I was like, when I first started, I was like, man, that'd be cool. Like if we could just do like Lubbock. But yeah, just because I was thinking like with Landon shots like if Landon shot, basically everyone playing live everywhere. Be like, okay, let's see how much rice to make baseball cards. Because if they make them for like, you know, literally Pop Warner. Yeah, it can't be that much. And you can make them for sure. All the musicians. Yeah. That's a great idea. You should make that happen. Kickstarter that? Yes, basically. Yeah. But then you'd also have to count on everyone keeping up with their stats.
Rodney Parker 39:56
And not and not. You can't can't make up your mind. You can't just trust them to be honest about how many times they were fired.
Unknown Speaker 40:02
You know? Like me shows have you played this year? I don't know. Yeah. We'll be cool though. It will be really cool. I think it's I support your idea.
Thomas Mooney 40:13
It's a lot better on paper. Yeah. Execution probably. Well, I don't know. I guess you could you could like go to their go to their website, maybe look backwards on the calendar. You know, I'm sure some way there's a disaster agent, like how many shows do you play? Yeah. What do you think would be like the the rarest of the rare is the various the various card that we like, we would hypothetically make that like everyone will be fighting for I don't know.
Rodney Parker 40:41
I mean, like, it would be up to it would be up to how many we made would you would you would make it rare. So it could be like, the rarest ones should be like, the most badass ones. So like, you know, you know, she's like, only do like five Jolie's. And we want to talk about the ones that you'll do the most stuff because obviously, I'll talk about
Thomas Mooney 41:09
Yeah, well, I mean, like, you know, once you get into the major leagues, you get a whole lot of baseball cards made anyways. Yeah,
Rodney Parker 41:15
yeah, that's right. That's funny, but yeah, definitely. That you need to the badass is only to do a very limited run.
Thomas Mooney 41:26
Yeah. You're a baseball fan. Yes. Big Ranger fan? No. I mean, I am. Not anymore. I
Rodney Parker 41:33
know I am. That I mean, there are guys who are way more into it than I am. But yeah, I do love the Rangers.
Thomas Mooney 41:38
Yeah. How many games do you watch?
Rodney Parker 41:41
I don't, I've only I've only gone to watch two this year. And then, you know, on TV. It's not often that I'll sit down at the beginning and watch the whole thing. You know, you ever pitch? You know, that's what I love about sport is that you can it's like just having it on. Yeah, watch a little bit, you know, while I'm doing something else talk, you know, our I'll sit at a bar and just stare at it, you know, so, but I'm not I've never been like I don't just watch every pitch of all nine innings that often.
Thomas Mooney 42:10
Yeah, I think like, you know, baseball is two things. It's like the great yeah, the background sport. Yeah. And to is like it's the great like regional sport. Yeah. You know, to mean like, that's why like, I'm against like interleague play. Yeah. You know, like, because it makes it to I don't know, national.
Rodney Parker 42:31
Right. I do love that. I do love the regional aspect of it. I wish it was even more so. You know?
Thomas Mooney 42:37
Yes. But talking with Drew Kindi, like, you know, he's a big Phillies fan. Oh, of course, I said that. I asked him the same question. Like, how many games? How many Philly? How many Phillies games do you watch or listen to while on the road? And he's like, almost. Really? Yeah. Like, at least you know that the whole
Rodney Parker 42:58
right but almost he'll he's checking it. He's one of these guys. It'll be like, during the podcast, if there's a game like checking his phone to see this or whatever that
Thomas Mooney 43:07
said, like, it works so well for him. Because you know, that's a East Coast team. Yeah. And so like games started early in the east, and so like, it's typically before he's playing. Yeah, he's able to catch some of it. We're like he's driving and he just has it on. XM radio or something.
Rodney Parker 43:25
Right. Yeah. That is, that's cool. I didn't know he was such a diehard fan. Yeah. Got it. I got it poke fun at him about that next time. Did you play baseball? Did I play? I mean, you know, I played Little League and all that. But I didn't play in high school. I was never very good at it. Unfortunately. Even though I loved the game so much. I wanted to be good. so badly. That was so bad.
Thomas Mooney 43:49
Yeah. I'm not that good. Or I wasn't that good. I played like, just a couple years and was just like, man, yeah, this is horrible for me. Yeah. My little brother though. He's, uh, I guess he's like, 15. And he was talking to him the other day. And he was like, Yeah, I asked him like, why he didn't play this last year. And he was like, Yeah, because he was just getting too boring for me. And I'm like, you cocky was one of like, boring? I'm like, Dude, what do you mean? Like, it's stupid? He was like, well, I'll play in high school right.
Unknown Speaker 44:29
Now, I don't know. The whole
Thomas Mooney 44:33
What did you What were you like at 15? I'll tell you how my little bit is
Rodney Parker 44:38
i was i was very awkward. extremely awkward kid. You know, I know in those awkward teenage years were especially so for me. You know, I was I had terrible acne, you know, and I was so shy and nervous and, too and so Yeah, in a way, probably like, I mean, maybe it was a dork. I think it might have
Thomas Mooney 45:05
just been baseball, you know? Well, at
Rodney Parker 45:09
that point I'd started to, you know, I found music, you know, my own music. I mean, probably when I was around 13 or so that I started, like, really branching out into music that I could find on my own. But by then I was pretty far into it, you know, and that's probably what I identified the most with at that age was, you know, some sort of music thing, but yeah, but I definitely like, I look back, I get pictures in the front from that time, and I'm just like, oh, man, look at you poor bastard. You know how ridiculous you.
Thomas Mooney 45:42
Yeah. Yeah. See, like when I was in, like, 1415 I wasn't really even into music. You weren't now like, cuz I think part of it was just because my my dad was always the right not to buy CDs musics on the radio, right? Like that kind of guy. So and three radio stations, you pick up and forth soccer. So it was obviously like, you're really just listening to what your parents have listened to me for so long. And so then. No, I guess it was kind of a on that aspect. I really didn't. Like Of course, I listen to music, but I wasn't like obsessed or anything. Yeah. Yeah. What were you into then? A lot of sports stuff like really well, like, big Mavericks fan. Like I see as far as like drew being like a watching or listening to every Phillies game. On the same way with a mass. Of course, that's only 82 games, but I watched at least like 90% of the year. Really? Yeah. So
Rodney Parker 46:47
speaking of math, when he was a kid Brooks was he was one of the kids that wiped the sweat out of the game. Yeah, I forget. I don't know if they called ball boys or what? Yeah, yeah. So he got to meet all those DJs all their autographs, you know? all the teams that came in, you know? Yeah. What I like dream thing for a kid to have, you know, like, when he was like, 11 doing that. I never I never was basketball I never got I never really got that far into it. For me. It was always always baseball.
Thomas Mooney 47:14
Yeah. I don't know. Like, none of that is cringy what I was thinking about like, whenever you're a kid is like just the dumb shit you bought. Yeah. Like, just imagine like, how much money you would have right now. If you just didn't buy all the dumb stuff. Like your your parents told you. Like, don't buy that. Right. It's like, you know, that kind of thing? Yeah, no. Hero kid kids are stupid. Yeah. You know, like, this weekend, speaking to my brother. He wanted to go to the mall to find a watch. And you know what, buddy? Jeff was like, wait, kids are wearing watches. I never wore a watch. And obviously, if you have a damn phone, you don't need to watch. But, you know, I said, You know, I think it's more of like this fashion statement kind of thing. It's like a big space. Like, I told him, he had to buy it from the wall. You know, like, instant gratification. I was like, let's just look online. Yeah. And I'm sure we can find something cheaper. Or no, no, it's hard to go do that. So he he bought one and in Sunday me like a good look. And watch. You know, well, that's
Rodney Parker 48:24
another thing about kids is that they? They have poor taste. Yeah. And lots of things. Yeah. Especially the way they dress. Or at least I get that I sound like such an old man. But look at that. Look at these idiots. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 48:42
What band? Did you listen to you back then that you were just like, you look now and you just cringe?
Rodney Parker 48:47
Yeah, no, I don't know that. I just cringe if there's any. But you know, I was. You know, parents always listened to country, you know, just like everybody else's parents probably. So I always listened to that. But then, you know, when I started to kind of when I was around that age, you know, 13 or 14 or 15 or whatever, that's when like the whole crunch thing started happening, which I thought was so badass. Yeah. Looking back on maybe some of those bands and like, some of it's still cool, obviously. But some of it I'm like, maybe maybe not all that.
Thomas Mooney 49:21
Yeah. It's It's weird, because I think you could probably do this with every decade. But I feel you know, since I grew up in the 90s, you grew up in the 90s. Essentially, yeah. It feels like some of those bands like just dated a whole lot worse than like bands from the 80s or 70s or 60s for sure. Like there's I guess more timeless music in those chairs. were like, a lot of stuff in the 90s I felt like it was either really really good or like it just did not age. Well. whatsoever.
Rodney Parker 49:57
I agree. with with with that. They all that grunge stuff and all that, I think that that was like a, it was a because it was everybody was way into that was huge thing. And it was more of a, like a cultural thing about, you know, expressing some sort of attitude and dressing this way. And then it was about like, because there was a lot of like bands that had a really low level of musicianship during that time, you know, and other decades didn't have that as much, I don't think. But some of those bands because it was all about the, you know, the way you look and how distorted your guitar is and everything. And so you didn't really have to be that great. And I think that those are the things that I think don't age well at all. Yeah, sounds like bad music, you know?
Thomas Mooney 50:44
Yeah.
Rodney Parker 50:46
Which, you know, back, you know, you think like back in the 60s say you didn't no one got to go and make a record if they weren't, like, very good. Very instrument. Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 50:56
Yeah. It's so okay. Like, I've always heard this story, but I was reminded of it. Just last night, I was driving home, I guess like Subaru has like a radio show on XM on that outlaw country station. And he was talking about like the Sir Douglas quintet. And about how like, you know, that's Doug som and like, Augie Meyers. They're all from Texas. And yet, like, the only way they were able to get any radio play whatsoever, was that I came up with a guy's name who cut their record, but he told him, like, show back up in a month, and like, have all your friends like, grow their hair out. And we're gonna call you guys like Sir Douglas quintet. Because it sounds more British. Because, like, the British Invasion shit was so in Vogue, like, like, they were letting all these like really shitty bands. Yeah, come over and play just because they were British, you know? Right. And that's so funny. It's kind of weird. You know, like to think
Rodney Parker 51:58
that is weird. Man. I heard a story once about a band. And I wish I could, it's not going to be I wish I could think of which band it was, but it was around that time, you know, the British invasion and all that. Well, one of these British one of these British bands had like, made a record and but then broken up. And then but they were popular over here still. So some a group of guys over here pretended to be them and like booked a tour and everything. And they ended up like moving on to bigger and they were really, you know, good musicians that made had legitimate careers. But that's how they started with their like, their bill, they broke up, so let's just pretend that were there.
Thomas Mooney 52:40
Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, that's awesome. Just play all their tunes, you know? Yeah. I mean, like, I guess every movement, every movement, every scene jumps the shark at some point. Just because there's like, all the the people who,
Rodney Parker 52:57
because there's money to put it on. Yeah, because there's money to be made off of it. People are gonna try it and then that's when it gets you know, turns turns to shit.
Thomas Mooney 53:06
Yeah. I guess you shouldn't just never really judge a of movement by like the worst
Unknown Speaker 53:12
death I think. Yeah, aspects of it. Yeah,
Thomas Mooney 53:14
maybe just because I mean, like, you could look at grunge and be like, grunge sucks. Because grunge Really? Without grunge, like Nickelback and creed wouldn't be around. Right, you know, I guess. Yeah, I think so. too.
Rodney Parker 53:32
I agree with everything you say. We have a maybe it's Yeah, it's probably just better to it's probably more fair to judge them by the best of the genre.
Thomas Mooney 53:44
Yeah, I don't know. Like the I guess what we got popular lately was, I don't even know. Maybe it's already passed. But like the Americana movement as far as like the the, like Mumford and Sons for Oh, yeah. They like the big grand anthems blasting. Kind of
Rodney Parker 54:07
Yeah, well, after Mumford and Sons, like everybody abroad is trying to copy them, you know, so there's, like, all these bands that were doing that same thing. You know, they're probably all broken up by now. Yeah. But that that sort of copycat stuff doesn't stick around for Yeah.
Thomas Mooney 54:24
You know, like, I guess like, monforts last record. They, it was like a rock and roll, right? Yeah, they plugged in, essentially, you know, and I joked, like, you know, like, there's all these bands who were already plugged in and then like, they were like, well, man, let's unplug. Yeah, and then like, all of a sudden, like, you know, they're, I guess on that same career path is Mumford trying to do what they're doing? And then it's like, you know, they plug back in, or plug in and then it's like, what the fuck do we do? What do we do now? That's fine like that. Like that Forrest Gump scene when he's like running, you know, and then he decides He's gonna stop. Like, what are we doing?
Rodney Parker 55:03
They're just standing there as he's running off. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah. Yeah. I applaud Mumford and Sons for, you know, what's that guy's name? Man guy?
Thomas Mooney 55:17
man if he had enough, Marcus Mumford.
Rodney Parker 55:19
Okay, I read, I guess, like a little snippet of an interview or something. And it was like, I don't I don't want to be known as just this, you know? So completely January instrumentation. And, you know, this was at the height of their popularity before they made this new record. Yeah, you know, and a lot of people were like, well, that's crazy. You can't do that. Like you just you're born. I'm so huge. That's it good for him mixed up.
Thomas Mooney 55:40
Yeah. I always give a whole lot of shifts and Mumford. Yeah. I don't think they're probably as bad as I always say they are. But I do think that like Marcus Mumford has been a part of a few projects that have been really cool. Like, the like the new basement tapes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Like that stuff was really good. And then he was also like, on the Inside llewyn Davis soundtrack? I didn't know that. Yeah, like that Coen Brothers movie. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. Really? Yeah. I hear that I need to good. Yeah. It's not as good as like, I thought I was gonna be really, but like, it's still good. Like, it's Coen brothers. So yeah. Yeah. I mean, check it out.
Rodney Parker 56:23
Yeah, I don't I've never I never listened that much to them. Mumford and Sons. You know, I mean, I hear what you the songs you can't escape hearing because they're everywhere. But
Thomas Mooney 56:33
Starbucks.
Rodney Parker 56:34
Yeah. But I never had any records. But I did. I did. Listen to that new basement tapes, you know. Yeah. I liked I liked his input a lot on that. Yeah. I never thought they were bad. I just thought I'm sick of hearing this. Yeah. I don't know why they're so revered. Maybe. But I never thought they're a bad band.
Thomas Mooney 56:55
Yeah, I think it's just weird that. And I guess that's kind of happened in the 60s too. Whenever the stones and the Beatles came over from England, the kings, all these great British bands. They were like reintroducing American music to Americans. Right. Right. Like, during that time, a lot of stuff was getting real bubblegum. I guess like it's sort of the same thing maybe happening, or was happening with Mumford. Because to a lesser degree, like, this British band, reintroducing Americans to like American music, you know, yeah. To Dylan. And that's kind of true, but I don't know if. Yeah, I don't know if I want to give him that like that much, Chris. You really don't like them? I just don't, I just think they're, they're too easy to like, yeah. You know what I mean? And, you know, what, like, it was one of those bands where, okay, this is the thing. It's, I don't know how that that kind of band can be your favorite band. Right. Like, if you have the record, or you think they're okay, like, that's fine. But some bands, I just don't know how they're your favorite band. Right. I don't there's like a better version of them somewhere.
Rodney Parker 58:13
Right? No, I would agree with that. Totally. I think it's, you know, maybe people that say that they're their favorite band or more casual listeners of music. Yeah.
Easy. Yeah. It's an easy, it's an accessible man. You know, it's easy to like them. And like you said, and
Unknown Speaker 58:34
I don't know.
Rodney Parker 58:36
But yeah, tell you what was annoying was like I would during that when they're blowing up or whatever, I would hear bands, you know, that they would sort of affect their voice with that some sort of weird accent when they sang like him, you know, just because that's the way he said. Like, what some and I'm like, you're from I know where you're from, dude.
Thomas Mooney 58:58
It's like an outfit by drive by truckers. Jason is bill says, Yeah, they'll sing with a fake British accent. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So just don't do that. Just don't do it. What is interesting, though, and this is like, I think one of the good points about I guess, like, the rebirth of American as far as Mumford or Eva brothers, that kind of stuff. is it's made Texas and Oklahoma bands that were more roots rock more relevant. And like, I guess more praised. Yeah, like Turnpike obviously has like some deep roots and roots rock. Yeah, yeah. And I think like that, just in a way help them. Yeah, well, you know, yeah, I think I think that's true and, and anything like that, that can, you know, that does nothing but help all of us, you know, For the sort of resurgence of Americana if you haven't you read the more rich rocker you know cuz I don't know, I don't think the people that like a bit brothers probably like country music or very country music you know even though troubadours our country, too. But like, yeah, I think they would have a hard time with like, I'm not gonna name anybody but somebody that's more more, you know, kind of very traditional traditional country. Yeah. But yeah, like, like Turnpike is always that band who, with my friends who aren't into country music, like, I don't like country music, but I like to I like, like that kind of thing. Right. Very,
Rodney Parker 1:00:50
it's just well, and it's because the songs are so good. You know? That wouldn't happen if it Yeah, if the songs weren't just so good. And but I don't know why that's so true for for things that are contrary or rootsy. I mean, it's just like, it's changing. But like, it's, it's so many people are just like, I don't I can't do country can't do it. Yeah. You know, like, why is that? Like, I don't know why. It's like, it's, it's it's, I think, maybe considered like, you know, like, less intelligent and a lot of it is, but there's, I mean, there's bad music in every genre. You know,
Thomas Mooney 1:01:24
I think it is part of the part of the like, they think it's like dumbed down. Yeah. But also, I think it's also a part of, you know, we're all from Texas. We're all from the south. I would guess like 90% of our parents listened to country music, right. And in a way, like it goes back to them. Just still trying to rebel against their parents.
Rodney Parker 1:01:50
Right. And I don't know, I think that that's probably true. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It's, yeah, it's but it's an odd thing. You know? I don't know. I guess there's some people who say the same thing. Like, I just can't listen to hip hop, you can do it. You know, when it's like, what about if it's a good really good, you know? Yeah. You know, but I know what, you know, probably no one says that about rock music. Like, even my dad probably likes some rock songs. You know? I mean, he's got Boyd out, man.
Thomas Mooney 1:02:19
Yeah. But a lot of stuff. Like, think about all the bands that are, you know, from the 70s or 60s who were called rock'n'roll then, but like, they would be called country or out country now. Sure, or American or whatever the case. Totally.
Rodney Parker 1:02:35
There's a boy. So that's what that's what they were. Yeah, you know, they, you know, just rich rock. You know, I mean, they were so just because they have long hair and stuff and more tight jeans. But, you know, I mean, it was American roots, music, you know?
Thomas Mooney 1:02:55
Yeah, it's funny.
Rodney Parker 1:02:57
Now, that that that slowly changed over time toward maybe not not so much. From the 90s you know, and then in 2000s, but yeah, back then for sure.
Thomas Mooney 1:03:09
Yeah. You know, the other day I guess was just literally yesterday paste put out like this. top tip saw that all the country. Did you see that list? Yeah,
Rodney Parker 1:03:18
I saw that list. And I read through it really quickly. I guess it did. I saw it yesterday. Yeah, I had some interesting stuff on there. That I didn't know. What do they call it country? That was like, that was like, top 50 attorney. Yeah. So like, Katie Lange is alternative country.
Thomas Mooney 1:03:31
Yeah. I there's some stuff on there. I was just like, Well, I didn't think that would be you know, he considered like my Morning Jacket. is still mus Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily think that was it's not what I would call alternative country. Right? Yeah.
Rodney Parker 1:03:48
Even though they were like, you know, we left a bunch of people off because they're not even though they're kind of country. They're on all countries. Yeah. I think like that, uh,
Thomas Mooney 1:04:03
I think still like to party care should be like number one or number two on that list?
Rodney Parker 1:04:09
Absolutely. No matter what. Yeah, I mean, that's my that's one of my favorites. I don't even remember. So was it ranked like number one was supposed to be the best? Yeah, it was ranked so so what was number one? Well, I don't remember.
Thomas Mooney 1:04:23
It wasn't like what I thought it was should have been. I thought like Heartbreaker. It was a Wilco Wilco record I think, Okay.
Rodney Parker 1:04:31
Get Heartbreaker to Florida care. Those would be like, you know, classics.
Thomas Mooney 1:04:38
Yeah. But it's also like ranking. All our country. It wasn't like, all country of the last, right. 30 years, 25 years or something. Here it is. Yeah, like the internet like it's always so fast whenever we don't necessarily need it. Yeah. There's like wilcos was a Yankee Hotel Foxtrot. Yes. I know. It's not that though. Okay, that's like I would have remembered that right. Oh, you know what it was? I don't think to the to it yet. But no, it's uncle Tupelo. Oh. Okay. Number two was in the Williams car was on a gravel road. Yeah. Let's see here. I guess we'll go being there as number seven.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:41
I see.
Rodney Parker 1:05:45
Well, that explains you know, Uncle Tupelo, like Heartbreaker. 1313 It's too low. Yeah. And where's too far care way down in the 20s or something?
Thomas Mooney 1:05:55
Let's see here. 20 not cool, man. Yeah. You know, like, you know, Jeff Dennis. Like, Jeff. He's never really gone down the rabbit hole because he always says, You don't want me to go down this like rabbit hole, about how to 40 carriers the best record? And I'm like, No, just do it. Just one day. Just please.
Rodney Parker 1:06:19
That's what like, What changed? Like everything for me? Because I was I was, you know, like, I don't know how old it was when it came out.
Thomas Mooney 1:06:28
Like in 97, which that's the thing is like 97. And that's so that is timeless? Yeah, like it was like it could have came out 2007
Rodney Parker 1:06:38
Yeah. Or next year? Yeah. Oh, totally. You know, it's timeless record. Yeah, but I remember being like, yeah, must been 16 because I had, I hadn't my car. Like I had a cassette. And I was like, oh, like it totally bridge two worlds. Like, I never knew that you could be like a badass rock and roll band and also have a country band. Like it totally made sense to me for like, the stuff that I had been into. And then like my upbringing. Yeah. Like, it was like this is it man? This is what this is the answer, but it was like life changing for me. I love that record.
Thomas Mooney 1:07:18
Yeah. Did you by chance see them on there? Like there was like a 15 year anniversary of two pharmacare tour. You did? Like, I don't know, like 15 dates of that. Maybe if I would have loved to their last date was here at Blue. I bet it was so and I interviewed red before that. And then like, I got to meet him before the show. And we talked a little bit more about it. And he was just like, yeah, tonight's gonna be like the last time we play that record all in a row. And I couldn't be more happy. He was over it. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, he's like, I love the songs and like, we're always gonna play time bomb and we're always gonna play Barrier Reef and but like, I guess playing the record in a row like that. Just can get tired and warm out. Yeah. I couldn't believe that. Yeah, I could totally believe that. But I love the idea of like bands doing that. Like just like the whole Springsteen does it. Yeah. In the river by the entire damn record. And then obviously, play those
Rodney Parker 1:08:23
the mega highlight stuff you have to play. I think it's a great idea. Yeah. We've You know, we've always wanted to like I don't people bands do this, you know, all the time, but I want to do it like, get us in like a couple of other bands. And maybe do like when your favorite records? Yeah, that kind of things. Yeah. Maybe it's like we're picking artists. And we each do one of their records. You know,
Thomas Mooney 1:08:51
their entire record.
Rodney Parker 1:08:53
Yeah, play a top down. Oh, man. I mean, if you could get guys to do it, and the records can't be like 20 songs long, obviously. Cuz you've run out of time. Yeah. I think that would be really fun. be challenging, but Yeah, awesome.
Thomas Mooney 1:09:03
I talked I said I was talking with Eric Willis. And I guess like Brandon Adams in red right there to like, let's do a fucking Fleetwood Mac show. Oh, yeah, that would be rad. Because like they, I guess read doesn't do a Fleetwood Mac cover. But Brandon, obviously he does dreams. And then Eric does landslide. And like Fleetwood Mac is like one of my top 10 favorite. I'm like, dude, let's just do that. Sometimes.
Rodney Parker 1:09:32
Somebody just like play rumors. Like the whole thing. That would be so awesome. What Uh, what's, how would you do? Probably dreams, man. James. I love it so much. You know, Brooks has which one does he love the most he likes? I can't remember right now, but dreams has always been my favorite one of theirs. You know, ya know, it's cliche but to have that be your favorite, but it is.
Thomas Mooney 1:09:55
Yeah. No, but uh, I think like we suggested Read do godus woman. Yeah, he would be great at that. Yeah, he would kill that song. I think like my favorite Fleetwood Mac song, and it's gonna be one of those like, no one's really ever heard. Yes. Because it was like cut from rumors, but it's Silver Springs, which is like, would have been the last track, but they ended up cutting it. I haven't heard it. I'm gonna play it for you right after we fucking do. Okay, just because it's so damn good really didn't like there was a version of it on one of their reunion tours, that big one that happened in the 90s. And like, is Stephen accessing it? And she and like, Lindsey are like looking at each other while they're singing it. Yeah. And like, it's obviously like it. Obviously rumors was all about right, everyone in the band, but like that song is obviously from her perspective to him. And they're like, he's singing the harmonies, and like, but it's so many years past. Right? They're over it, but like, they still have that connection. Man. That's so fucking good. That's Brad. Yeah. Silver Springs. Yeah, I'll play it for you. Like in a minute. Okay. You good now, man. You want to keep on going? If you don't like an hour? Yeah, no. What do you got planned?
Rodney Parker 1:11:18
I mean, I'm just gonna be here. So yeah, we're not gonna leave the blue. I don't I'm not a big like. Like after soundcheck, a lot of bands like to get back to the hotel or whatever. And show up like art before Showtime. Yeah. That, for some reason makes me like, nervous or something. I just I can't stand that. So I always just hang out. Stay here. Yeah. Plus, you know. Have a beer. Whatever.
Thomas Mooney 1:11:40
Yeah. Play some
Rodney Parker 1:11:42
golden tea. Golden tea, man. Well, it's new, but it's already out of order. Yeah, I
Thomas Mooney 1:11:49
don't think it's ever been in order. Actually. What year is it? I don't know. on top. It says it. I can't read that far. I can't see it. Because there's a sign in my way. I think it says 2016 Yeah, get it back in order. Do you play golf? Very, very poorly. Yeah. I mean, it's fun. But I've never I've never been very good at it. Yeah. Parker was talking to him. I guess two days ago, him and Dustin played like 36 holes in one day. Well, that's fun. Yeah. as much. I was over at Parker's and he had like, you know, big sunburn across the forehead. And he's just look weathered. That's a long time. Yeah. And that's a lot. So doesn't appear later that night, and he was
Rodney Parker 1:12:35
totally just going totally fine. Yeah. Like, man, tougher than me. I can do it. Also, I couldn't make it through 36 holes in that, you know, I mean, cuz you drink a beer the whole time. That's part of golf. Like, I wouldn't be. I couldn't stand up by the end of it.
Thomas Mooney 1:12:51
Yeah. What, uh, okay, like, what, what events would you want to go to? Not necessarily sporting sporting events, but like, just that are like on your bucket list? Would you like wanna go to like, the masters or anything like that? Or
Rodney Parker 1:13:03
you would like to go to the Masters? You know? Just Just to see the course. Yeah, it's just, it's like the most beautiful bitanga land, you know, that there's so cool. Also, like, you know, I want to do you know, I want to see as many ballparks as I can, but finma would be one that I really, really want to see. Yeah, my first like, if I could afford ever afford just to fly, just to watch a game only because I'm going up to that there to just see a ballpark that would be it. But speaking of bucket list stuff, I am marking one off my lists coming up so and August, that this month, like three weeks. I've never seen birds before ever. Yeah, so I'm gonna go I'm gonna get to see him. But I'm flying to New Jersey to see him live in New Jersey. No, it's gonna be right. Bobby Duncan are going and Donovan Dodd. I had
Thomas Mooney 1:13:59
a professor who is from New Jersey. So he was all about spring. Sure, of course. And, you know, he, he'd seen Springsteen at least 10 times. You know what I mean? Like that kind of stuff. And we'd be up there, like at paper night, getting the newspaper stuff done, and like one of his buddies would call and be like, Hey, listen, we're at Springsteen. Yeah. And like, just just to call him to let him know. They're watching Springsteen kind of thing. That's a dude like, Yeah, I was talking. I've talked with so many people about how he's just the guy who if he wanted, he could play 90 minutes. Sure. And be okay. Like, nobody would give him shit. But he always plays like three and a half hours, right? Which is crazy. And he's, he's the only one
Rodney Parker 1:14:50
guy I think that can pull that off. I mean, okay, there's so there's a handful of bands that can pull that off and have it still be good and interesting. But if any other band. Most any other band. I'm over it by then man. Yeah, God, let's wrap this up, but I won't be there with him, obviously. But I actually think that we should I love it when bands play short sets. Yeah, cuz you just get the best, you know, I think that like, like, like, I kind of think that the the days when they would be like package shows with like six bands for they would each play like 40 minutes. I think that's awesome. Like the like the Elvis Johnny Cash and all that stuff. Yeah Really Louis Yeah. And just like yeah, they would always, you know, and never have a bunch of different bands. So you get a full month's worth of music music but you know, just shorter sets because I mean, you know, they're obviously obvious exceptions, but you know, a lot of times two hours even I'm like, this is Yeah. I mean, you get ear fatigue. Like,
Thomas Mooney 1:15:54
I agree with you to an extent, like sometimes I'll just want to see like a band, like, just go forever. Yeah, really. As long as it's like, they're, like, I don't want them to play forever, if they're just up there. And it's too many covers, you know, like that they're just doing it because, right? But there's some times where they're going on for a long time or an extended period, just because of the energy of the night. Or, you know, something like that, that that okay, I saw like, my, my example would be Jonathan Tyler, one time played here. It was like a back to back night where they did two nights in a row. And that second night, like you would think, okay, it's not, it's not gonna be as good as the first night just because all these people were already here. Right? The second I was somehow better. And like, he ended up playing till like, 150. Like the lights were on and stuff when they stopped. But it was just like that. There was a moment. You know what I mean? Yeah. Not on if you could do that every time. Yeah, kind of get tired person but
Rodney Parker 1:17:04
right. Well, that is that's cool. And, and I do I'm with you on that. If it's because if it's because of it's just like a magical moment or not, then then I'm understanding. You know, I think that is cool. But I don't know, nobody can be like three and a half hours of cool or four hours of cool like verse kid.
Thomas Mooney 1:17:23
Yeah, let's get the so many so many songs. It's not necessarily even just songs. It's so many phases. Right? You know what I mean? Because, yeah, obviously, the guy has songs, but it's also like, has phases? No? Sure. You know, that should work out. So well. No, I agree. No, yeah. I don't know. It's so interesting to see guys who are up there in age, still find stuff to write about. You know, like Springsteen, I've always because somebody guys get up there in age, and then they just become a character of their stuff, and become cliche. But like Leonard Cohen, like, you know, that guy's like in his 80s. And his, he didn't have a record for, like a gap of like, 12 years between records or something like that. And then he put out two records, and they were just, you know, still great.
Rodney Parker 1:18:18
Yeah. It's weird. There's not a lot of guys can do that. I don't think that you know, I don't even I don't even think of Bruce is like, aging, but he's like, 60 something, you know, 66 or something like that. Yeah. And it's like, he's not gonna. I mean, I don't know. I hope he towards forever, but that's why I'm really sad about seeing him just like she'll be 70 in four years. Yeah. You're gonna be running around crazy house. Oh, but
Thomas Mooney 1:18:43
yeah, it's a look at like, Willie Nelson. You know? Yeah, like he's, he's gonna be a dude. Of course, his shows are not, you know, sliding around. springs. But, like, that's a guy who's gonna go forever. I feel Yeah. You know, he'll, he will he will die out on the road. And, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, he'll
Rodney Parker 1:19:07
he'll never quit. I mean, that's just I guess. You know, he probably doesn't, he probably doesn't know what to do. Like, it's just his own. It's been his wild life for like, how many years like, you know, 70 years? Yeah, that's all he's done. So for forever.
Thomas Mooney 1:19:25
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Crazy. Yeah. Well, let's, uh, let's call it okay. Yeah, this has been fun, dude. Thanks for coming. Thank you, man. I've never done one of these before.
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